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Doug Burgum

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1089 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

If you think about a central bank digital currency, China, Euro, or ECB, or even Canada, a lot of you will remember during COVID, the Canadian government, they didn't like what some truckers were doing, and they seized and froze their bank accounts.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

So with a central bank digital currency, you could put out a mean tweet, not that any of you would ever do that.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

But if you put out a mean tweet... No one up here is known for doing that.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

Ever.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

That if you have a government backed, then they can shut you down as opposed to this unbridled choice that consumers are going to have for U.S.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

dollar stablecoins.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

We haven't seen that yet.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

And I think there's a good chance that we could see.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

So if we think about China, China has a high tariff rate.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

It's 30%.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

The Chinese business model is like the brooms and the water buckets from Fantasia.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

They just keep going.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

And it's an employment agency.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

And it's an employment agency.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

So they will just keep cutting costs to maintain market share.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

So we haven't seen that thus far.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

And a lot of the other foreign producers have cut costs

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

cut price to maintain market share.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

A lot of the U.S.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

companies have eaten into their margins to maintain market share.