Doug Burgum
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And I look around that room and a number of those folks are friends of mine, people that I've known, people that have had great success in the private sector, people that are making big sacrifices to come and do public service, working for the government to try to solve these problems that people think are intractable, like our $2 trillion deficit. He's empowering everybody.
I mean, it's like, let's go and go quickly because these are big, important issues for ourselves, our kids, our grandkids. So that's the second thing, you know, clear direction, hire a great team. Number two, three, empower them. And number four, hold people accountable. And President Trump does that better than almost any CEO in the country. He holds people accountable for what they do.
I mean, it's like, let's go and go quickly because these are big, important issues for ourselves, our kids, our grandkids. So that's the second thing, you know, clear direction, hire a great team. Number two, three, empower them. And number four, hold people accountable. And President Trump does that better than almost any CEO in the country. He holds people accountable for what they do.
And so I felt the energy in the room was really electric. People were excited to be there, to be in the cabinet room, to be part of this historic team. And I think the amount of talent in the room is really, really high. And I'm very excited about what everybody's going to get done and get done working together and working together for the American people.
And so I felt the energy in the room was really electric. People were excited to be there, to be in the cabinet room, to be part of this historic team. And I think the amount of talent in the room is really, really high. And I'm very excited about what everybody's going to get done and get done working together and working together for the American people.
Well, I think I can only speak for myself, but I think the excitement around the idea that you've got not just a entrepreneur, not a business leader, not a visionary, not someone who's obviously brilliant. But for me, the reason I get excited is Elon grew up in tech. And that's where I spent my career is in tech. And being a tech CEO is different than other categories in tech.
Well, I think I can only speak for myself, but I think the excitement around the idea that you've got not just a entrepreneur, not a business leader, not a visionary, not someone who's obviously brilliant. But for me, the reason I get excited is Elon grew up in tech. And that's where I spent my career is in tech. And being a tech CEO is different than other categories in tech.
There are no natural barriers. No one has a monopoly. New entrants show up tomorrow completely out of the blue. And you have to be better, faster, cheaper for your customers tomorrow than you were yesterday or you go out of business. So competition drives innovation. And we do have parts of our... We don't pick airlines, railroads, public utilities.
There are no natural barriers. No one has a monopoly. New entrants show up tomorrow completely out of the blue. And you have to be better, faster, cheaper for your customers tomorrow than you were yesterday or you go out of business. So competition drives innovation. And we do have parts of our... We don't pick airlines, railroads, public utilities.
These are regulated businesses with limited amounts of competition. And the folks that have survived in tech really know about innovation. And government has essentially been regulated. Most of what government does is often a monopoly. They're the only place that can give you a permit. They're the only place you can get a driver's license. You have to get permission from the federal government.
These are regulated businesses with limited amounts of competition. And the folks that have survived in tech really know about innovation. And government has essentially been regulated. Most of what government does is often a monopoly. They're the only place that can give you a permit. They're the only place you can get a driver's license. You have to get permission from the federal government.
And that's why we find things where, you know, the federal government ends up being the 9 to 430, where the rest of the economy is 7 by 24 by 365. And so bringing that tech sense in is something I'm super excited about, because once you do the cost cutting, then you have to bring on the backside. You know, Elon opens up his jacket. It says tech support technology.
And that's why we find things where, you know, the federal government ends up being the 9 to 430, where the rest of the economy is 7 by 24 by 365. And so bringing that tech sense in is something I'm super excited about, because once you do the cost cutting, then you have to bring on the backside. You know, Elon opens up his jacket. It says tech support technology.
We've got to come in and we have to arm the people that work for government at the state and federal level with the same tools that their private sector counterparts have. And we haven't done that. We've underinvested in technology. The business processes, the productivity tools aren't there. And we can have fewer jobs, but they can be more meaningful and more purposeful.
We've got to come in and we have to arm the people that work for government at the state and federal level with the same tools that their private sector counterparts have. And we haven't done that. We've underinvested in technology. The business processes, the productivity tools aren't there. And we can have fewer jobs, but they can be more meaningful and more purposeful.
We can get rid of the mind-numbing, soul-sucking work of That's buried in a lot of these jobs. And the jobs that we do have allow people to really make a difference in people's lives. And so I get excited about the path that we're on and where we're going. And this is also a major, major right sizing of the federal government that's never happened before. And it's, in my mind, long overdue.
We can get rid of the mind-numbing, soul-sucking work of That's buried in a lot of these jobs. And the jobs that we do have allow people to really make a difference in people's lives. And so I get excited about the path that we're on and where we're going. And this is also a major, major right sizing of the federal government that's never happened before. And it's, in my mind, long overdue.
Well, I'm happy to, and I've actually got two roles because in addition to being the Secretary of Interior, President Trump has created the National Energy Dominance Council, asked me to be chair, asked Chris Wright, the Secretary of Energy, to be the vice chair. And about half the cabinet leaders in the cabinet meeting yesterday are also on the National Energy Dominance Council.
Well, I'm happy to, and I've actually got two roles because in addition to being the Secretary of Interior, President Trump has created the National Energy Dominance Council, asked me to be chair, asked Chris Wright, the Secretary of Energy, to be the vice chair. And about half the cabinet leaders in the cabinet meeting yesterday are also on the National Energy Dominance Council.
and the whole idea behind that is that we've got to have affordable reliable energy for all americans and we've got to produce more energy of all kinds we need more electricity we need more liquid fuels we need more biofuels we need all of the above that can be reliable and affordable and if we do that then we can sell energy to our friends and allies and have them stop buying from our adversaries i mean there's two proxy wars that president trump is trying to end right now one with russia ukraine