Doug Lesmerises

He's 3-0 against Michigan.

I know he had great receivers, but I think Troy Smith at 40 is too low.

And I appreciate the fact that I saw Dave Biddle wince and kind of nod because I think you agree Troy is too low at 40.

Yeah, and won two one-versus-two games that year against Texas and Michigan.

So, all right, Chuck, where's your biggest gripe on this list?

If you have one, or maybe you just say, tip of the cap, ESPN, well done.

Right.

No, I think that's very well said.

And it is one of those where, I mean, and it's not like it was an under the radar thing, Chuck.

You know, like Ohio State in 2006, like they were a gigantic national story.

That Ohio State-Michigan game at the end of that season was a gigantic national story.

The Sports Illustrated cover after Ohio State beats Michigan is the best period with Troy Smith on the cover.

It's not like, Chuck, it's not like some little under the radar like, oh, yeah, nobody ever heard of Troy Smith in Ohio State before.

It's odd to me.

That's interesting.

Because I think part of the... If we had a...

an Ohio state fan base discussion about JT Barrett, even that discussion, right.

Is going to be split in some ways, but I also do think Chuck, don't you think a little bit, I think the, the further we get away from JT's career, maybe the more he'll be appreciated, but like kind of right when it was ending, it was like, why aren't they playing Dwayne Haskins instead of this guy?

But then it's like, looking back, it's like, this guy's a leader.

This guy's a winner, but it is interesting.