Doug Lesmerises

And then they drafted Cade York.

And it was like, Cade York has to come be this hero for the Browns.

I talked to Cade York at the combine and said, well, you come save the Browns.

And he was like, yeah, I'll do it.

And they drafted him and he made like a 52 yard field goal to win the game in the opener.

And Browns fans, it was the greatest moment in Browns history.

And then, like, he didn't make another field goal the rest of his career, and he got cut.

And it was like, oh, my God, this kicker stuff drives people crazy.

Dave, you have a knowing look on your face.

You understand the kicker relationship.

This fan base is looking for love when it comes to kickers.

But they're also open, I think, to getting hurt again because it has been quite a rollercoaster ride.

Are you, are you ready to get hurt?

Chuck, you ready to get hurt?

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

All right, Dave Biddle, the people love you.

I want to make sure they know where they can find you, how they can partake of all the Dave Biddle content out there in the world.

We'll put it in the show body.

Two great guys, two great guests, as good as it gets when it comes to thinking and talking about the Buckeyes.