Doug Lesmerises

I think that's very interesting to me.

But yet, for instance, Matt, you're most excited about Chesney, right?

Kurt Cignetti had not been a head coach in the Power Four.

Is this smart by the Big Ten to sort of getting tried-and-true guys who –

you know, we're winning in the power four and maybe are elevating a level Utah to, to Michigan, Iowa state, to Penn state, right.

Northwestern to Michigan state.

Is that smart?

Or are they missing out on bigger swings by taking sort of obvious candidates that were right in front of them?

Yeah.

Okay.

Okay.

And it's interesting, Audrey.

Everyone does coaching lists all the time.

I was just like...

screwing around on the internet, looking for coaching lists.

I found the 2021 head coaching list, best head coaches in college football, Kyle Whittingham, 18, Pat Fitzgerald, 10, Matt Campbell, eight.

And the thing that I find interesting about like those three guys, I think we're always respected as among the best coaches in college football.

And I think people kind of wondered, man, if they just maybe took a step up to a place where they actually could compete for national championships, what might they look like?

And now here it is happening right in front of us.

I like it.