Doug Lesmerises

So you two are both picking Penn State as your dark horse.

I'm going to go ahead.

Matt, we'll get to you right now because you're dying to say UCLA also.

He did.

Yeah.

My why not team, and I've said this on a couple shows, is Wisconsin, because they have a quarterback in Colton Joseph, the ODU transfer.

2,600 passing yards last year, 1,000 rushing yards.

If they can get some health at quarterback, I'm very curious about that.

Abu Sama, who we like from Iowa State at running back.

Kevin Haywood, I think, was one of the...

more devastating injuries in the big 10 to lose their like five star starting left tackle before the season started last year.

If he's back, uh, that's a big deal for them.

And they have like a really manageable back half of the schedule after a really tough schedule last year that included Alabama.

Um,

But they open in Lambeau Field against Notre Dame.

And we saw Notre Dame's first two games of the 2025 season impacted.

They were so impactful for the whole playoff race.

I'm not there yet.

What?

The teacher and the student.