Doug Lesmerises

I'll give you my number five.

And so I actually think, so we're not putting Julian Stan in our top five.

I'm glad we did 10 instead of five.

Cause I, I don't know if we're going to have the exact same top five.

We might, but I think like we're, we're starting to get to like kind of a different level of transfer here.

of like splashier, like bang new era.

This is what it's all about.

My five is quench on Judkins.

We're okay.

Let's have the Judkins conversation first.

Where do you have Judkins?

Four.

Okay.

I have them five.

Would they have won the national championship in 2024 without Quinch on Judkins?

If they had just had to ride trivia on Henderson, the whole, I don't think, I don't think so.

Is it both?

that it's a two headed monster that you keep those guys fresh, that they're both high level players who were drafted in the second round of the NFL draft, but also they are complimentary to each other.

Judkins physicality near the goal line compliments Trey's lightning speed that it's, it was two of them, but it was also like almost exactly what you're looking for in terms of guys playing off each other.

All right.