DQ

And you indicated Moojay wanted you to hold her hand.

Yes.

Did you hold her hand?

Yes.

I want you to describe what did Moojay's face look like when the defendant was having sex with her.

Well, she was tearing up.

And he explained to me that he was facing a mandatory 25 years and I told him that my last charge I was facing the same thing.

So.

We got into the conversation, then he explained that, you know, he can't go back and do 25 years.

So, he explained that he couldn't let her take the stand.

So, as the conversation went on, he was like, you know, he got to get rid of her.

So, he was like that he was going to go back to Saginaw when he got out to go to Saginaw to get the little guy, for the little guy to go talk to her, the girl who is fiance's nephew.

So...

As the conversation went on, he was explaining how he would do it.

He explained he would get somebody from Detroit to do it.

Because he figured that I knew certain people.

So he asked me a couple of names.

I didn't really know who they was.

He was just making conversation with me about it.

But he was, to me, he was plotting to do it.