Dr. Aaron Kheriaty
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first heard Dec 2024
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Very excited for today's show. It's a special time to accommodate Dr. Matthias Desmet. You can follow him on X at Desmet Matthias. He is an expert on mass formation and madness of crowd behavior and totalitarian psychology. He is a bioethicist and psychiatrist. His name is Dr. Aaron Cariotti. You can follow him at Aaron Cariotti, M-D-K-H-E-R-I-A-T-Y-M-D.
And we're going to get into a lot of stuff here. The last time we were all together was in Pittsburgh at the Brownstone Institute. And Susan became enraptured by their conversation together. And these guys have their finger on the pulse of what we have been through and making sense of where we've been.
And we have also the latest example of our psychological excesses with this assassination of an insurance executive and the extraordinary and bizarre reaction of some people. Stay with us right here after this. Our laws as it pertains to substances are draconian and bizarre. The psychopath started this.
He was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction, fentanyl and heroin. Ridiculous. I'm a doctor for f***'s sake. Where the hell do you think I learned that? I'm just saying, you go to treatment before you kill people. I am a clinician. I observe things about these chemicals. Let's just deal with what's real. We used to get these calls on Loveline all the time.
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All right, I want to give our guests their due here. I'm going to spend a little time introducing them so you understand who they are and where they have been. Matthias Desmet is a professor of psychology at the University of Ghent in Belgium. Author of The Psychology of Totalitarianism. Psychology of Totalitarianism. I suggest you read it.
Desmond is the author of 100 peer-reviewed academic papers. In 2018, he received the Evidence-Based Psychoanalytic Case Study Prize, the Association for Psychoanalytic Psychotherapy. Follow him on X, Desmond Matias, M-A-T-T-I-A-S, and learn more about him at matiasdesmond.org. And Matias has been with us here before, as has Dr. Aaron Cariotti, never the two of them together.
Aaron is a psychiatrist, the director of the program of bioethics, and American Democracy at the Ethics and Public Policy Center in Washington, D.C. Author of The New Abnormal, The Rise of the Biomedical Security State. He was a teacher in the Department of Psychiatry at UC Irvine. He was the head of their bioethics committee.
And when he dared to raise his hand and said, you know, I've been preaching to our students for years that you must walk the walk. when a bioethical transgression occurs and is hard. He said, the time has arrived for me.
This is hard for me to say, but you do not have the bioethical standing to mandate vaccines to our students, at which point he was immediately put on leave and eventually dismissed. This is an egregious transgression. He then went on to be one of the plaintiffs in Missouri versus Biden, which is still working its way through the courts.
Doug Cariotti can be found at AaronCariotti.substack.com and also Aaron Cariotti, MD on X. Gentlemen, welcome to the program. Thanks, Drew. It's great to be with you. Thanks. And Matthias in Belgium. I know we'll get you late today. We appreciate you being here. Let's start. Susan, we're going to get into a little bit later this assassination of an insurance executive and people's reaction to it.
But to me, it is just the latest manifestation of mass formation scapegoating. except that we have now graduated from the virtual scapegoating violence in social media, the cancellation scapegoating. Now we're actually graduating to the guillotines. We are actually now supporting or celebrating violent killing, which is the ultimate manifestation of mass formation.
I'm going to start with Matthias. Take it from there, if you would.
And Aaron, does that surprise you? I mean, we certainly have been upside down morally and ethically in this country, and this is just evidence of it for me.
It is... It's shocking to me because... Look, the whole thing has been shocking to me. I thought we... Matthias alerted me to the fact that I was wrong. This didn't end in the 20th century. I thought there was something that started in 1790 in France and it sort of hit a peak in the mid-20th century. Okay, we did that. Lo and behold...
Now I find myself reading all the time about what you're saying, Aaron, is it happens all the time in human beings. In fact, I'm thinking about the movie Master and Commander with Russell Crowe where they suddenly hit, they're at sea and there's no wind and they all become paranoid and believe this one kid is the reason there's no wind and he kills himself. Yeah.
or is going to be killed anyway if he doesn't kill himself. And then the wind comes back and they're all cathartists. There's been a catharsis. And Rene Girard does talk about a catharsis as well in some of this. That's right. Matias, I don't know if you, yeah, go ahead. You want to say something, Aaron? Go ahead.
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