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Dr. Allan Schore

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Huberman Lab
How Relationships Shape Your Brain | Dr. Allan Schore

It's those which also early in life literally form neuroplastic, so they will form circuits. That's what we're attempting to regulate here, to down-regulate very high levels of neuroadrenaline and up-regulate dopamine, etc., etc.,

Huberman Lab
How Relationships Shape Your Brain | Dr. Allan Schore

Yes, yes. The key here is emotion regulation again, and again, it's implicit emotion regulation. One of the central tenets of my ideas here is that, first of all, there has been too much of an emphasis on the downregulation of negative states. Remember the original attachment theory, the secure base, the baby would come back in a stressed state, she would downregulate the negative states.

Huberman Lab
How Relationships Shape Your Brain | Dr. Allan Schore

Yes, yes. The key here is emotion regulation again, and again, it's implicit emotion regulation. One of the central tenets of my ideas here is that, first of all, there has been too much of an emphasis on the downregulation of negative states. Remember the original attachment theory, the secure base, the baby would come back in a stressed state, she would downregulate the negative states.

Huberman Lab
How Relationships Shape Your Brain | Dr. Allan Schore

Yes, yes. The key here is emotion regulation again, and again, it's implicit emotion regulation. One of the central tenets of my ideas here is that, first of all, there has been too much of an emphasis on the downregulation of negative states. Remember the original attachment theory, the secure base, the baby would come back in a stressed state, she would downregulate the negative states.

Huberman Lab
How Relationships Shape Your Brain | Dr. Allan Schore

But really, attachment is about the down-regulation of negative states and the up-regulation of positive states. Still, at this point in time, the importance of positive states in the human experience are overlooked. Positive emotions, joy, enthusiasm, excitement. Positive states literally are the key, and there are hormonal aspects to that, as you just point out.

Huberman Lab
How Relationships Shape Your Brain | Dr. Allan Schore

But really, attachment is about the down-regulation of negative states and the up-regulation of positive states. Still, at this point in time, the importance of positive states in the human experience are overlooked. Positive emotions, joy, enthusiasm, excitement. Positive states literally are the key, and there are hormonal aspects to that, as you just point out.

Huberman Lab
How Relationships Shape Your Brain | Dr. Allan Schore

But really, attachment is about the down-regulation of negative states and the up-regulation of positive states. Still, at this point in time, the importance of positive states in the human experience are overlooked. Positive emotions, joy, enthusiasm, excitement. Positive states literally are the key, and there are hormonal aspects to that, as you just point out.

Huberman Lab
How Relationships Shape Your Brain | Dr. Allan Schore

For example, dopamine, etc., etc., And this goes for therapy also. In therapy, it's not only just the down regulation and the sharing the down regulation, but it's also sharing the up regulation of positive states because that's a critical piece of it also. But there still is that bias to look one way.

Huberman Lab
How Relationships Shape Your Brain | Dr. Allan Schore

For example, dopamine, etc., etc., And this goes for therapy also. In therapy, it's not only just the down regulation and the sharing the down regulation, but it's also sharing the up regulation of positive states because that's a critical piece of it also. But there still is that bias to look one way.

Huberman Lab
How Relationships Shape Your Brain | Dr. Allan Schore

For example, dopamine, etc., etc., And this goes for therapy also. In therapy, it's not only just the down regulation and the sharing the down regulation, but it's also sharing the up regulation of positive states because that's a critical piece of it also. But there still is that bias to look one way.

Huberman Lab
How Relationships Shape Your Brain | Dr. Allan Schore

Now, in the Right Brain book, I'm also talking about two types of love, quiet love and excited love. This was the famous psychoanalyst Donald Winnicott, who was a pediatrician, who was one of the great psychoanalysts of the 20th century. And he made the distinction between quiet love, which would again be the downregulation of noradrenaline, and excited, which is into a parasympathetic state.

Huberman Lab
How Relationships Shape Your Brain | Dr. Allan Schore

Now, in the Right Brain book, I'm also talking about two types of love, quiet love and excited love. This was the famous psychoanalyst Donald Winnicott, who was a pediatrician, who was one of the great psychoanalysts of the 20th century. And he made the distinction between quiet love, which would again be the downregulation of noradrenaline, and excited, which is into a parasympathetic state.

Huberman Lab
How Relationships Shape Your Brain | Dr. Allan Schore

Now, in the Right Brain book, I'm also talking about two types of love, quiet love and excited love. This was the famous psychoanalyst Donald Winnicott, who was a pediatrician, who was one of the great psychoanalysts of the 20th century. And he made the distinction between quiet love, which would again be the downregulation of noradrenaline, and excited, which is into a parasympathetic state.

Huberman Lab
How Relationships Shape Your Brain | Dr. Allan Schore

So you're going from a hypersympathetic state into a parasympathetic state, quiet love. And then excited love. which would be also passionate love, which is the high arousal state out of it, so to speak. And they are both important, and ultimately they both need to be integrated. And you may have a situation whereby one can do one, but ultimately they have to come together.

Huberman Lab
How Relationships Shape Your Brain | Dr. Allan Schore

So you're going from a hypersympathetic state into a parasympathetic state, quiet love. And then excited love. which would be also passionate love, which is the high arousal state out of it, so to speak. And they are both important, and ultimately they both need to be integrated. And you may have a situation whereby one can do one, but ultimately they have to come together.

Huberman Lab
How Relationships Shape Your Brain | Dr. Allan Schore

So you're going from a hypersympathetic state into a parasympathetic state, quiet love. And then excited love. which would be also passionate love, which is the high arousal state out of it, so to speak. And they are both important, and ultimately they both need to be integrated. And you may have a situation whereby one can do one, but ultimately they have to come together.

Huberman Lab
How Relationships Shape Your Brain | Dr. Allan Schore

Let me make this important point. In the end, we have negative emotions for adaptive reasons. It's there. Let's take shame. Shame is meant to dose down very high levels of arousal. And if one can't do that, very high levels of arousal, let's say in narcissistic personality disorders, you need to be able to... So we need to have access to both positive and negative emotion.

Huberman Lab
How Relationships Shape Your Brain | Dr. Allan Schore

Let me make this important point. In the end, we have negative emotions for adaptive reasons. It's there. Let's take shame. Shame is meant to dose down very high levels of arousal. And if one can't do that, very high levels of arousal, let's say in narcissistic personality disorders, you need to be able to... So we need to have access to both positive and negative emotion.

Huberman Lab
How Relationships Shape Your Brain | Dr. Allan Schore

Let me make this important point. In the end, we have negative emotions for adaptive reasons. It's there. Let's take shame. Shame is meant to dose down very high levels of arousal. And if one can't do that, very high levels of arousal, let's say in narcissistic personality disorders, you need to be able to... So we need to have access to both positive and negative emotion.

Huberman Lab
How Relationships Shape Your Brain | Dr. Allan Schore

But the real key to a secure attachment is the ability to integrate both positive and negative emotions. So with a really good securely attached mother, when that baby is in a down state, literally, she can literally ride down with that baby and synchronize. And when it's an up state, she can really ride up with that state.