Dr. Andrew Huff

That's so often the case.

And I get this question.

It's like when I worked at the National Laboratory.

If we had anyone who was foreign to the lab, and I mean anyone external to Sandia come to the laboratory, we would give them what I call the special tour.

So they would have their Sandia minder and we'd take them to an area which we had bug swept before.

And then, you know, we'd show them whatever we wanted to show the dog and pony show.

And the second we left that, that area would be bug checked before or after they left.

So...

If that's what we do in the United States and that's our standard protocol for top secret, secret environments, we don't think the Chinese are doing the same thing.

So you have all these U.S.

government officials and Dr. Daszak visiting that laboratory.

They would just take him around and be like, oh, this is our microbiology laboratory.

This is our ventilation hood where we do sample work, I mean.

Just looking at the equipment in a laboratory sometimes doesn't actually tell you what they're working on either.

Well, of course not.

Because you're dealing with viruses.

You can't see these things or bacteria or pathogens.

Right.

Exactly.

So the way that I'm trained and the way that I've worked in this type of intelligence aspect of science is you look at scenarios.