Dr. Andrew Huff

But on social media, there are other groups of scientists in publicly saying that this was still a laboratory leak.

In fact, they haven't

That it was not a laboratory leak.

That was not a laboratory leak.

They still haven't retracted the proximal origins paper, which is a complete fraud.

Are you serious?

No.

And Dr. Ebright from Rutgers University, who I admire and respect, he's fighting this, the good fight every day on social media as an old, old seasoned professor should.

So the whole complex of either the pharmaceutical industry, the scientific community that works tightly with the pharmaceutical industry or are funded by the agencies involved in this, are all opposing the natural... Or excuse me, they're all opposing the lab leak.

I would believe so.

Well, not them directly because they're not making public statements on this, but if you look at, you know, you follow the money.

So if you look at the scientists, okay, and where they get their money from, many of the people who are involved in mRNA technology development associated with SARS-CoV-2 vaccines are in the camp of this was a naturally emerging disease.

I don't know if he's pushing it still, but I mean, he was.

He was pushing the natural emergency theory quite profoundly everywhere he went for a period of time.

Why would...

Well, Dr. Hotez is actually a more interesting specific person that you named because he actually has connections to the Wuhan Institute of Virology as well.

So he's more directly linked back to the origin story than other scientists in the vaccine.

Yes.

In what way?

I forget that he has some kind of either publication record with scientists there or collaboration of research, I believe.