Dr. Andy Galpin

Like when you were saying all of that, I go, do you know what I mean?

We spent the entire length of human history with one, maybe arguably two singular goals.

One of them at the core was stress reduction.

That was what we're after, right?

You create communities so you're safer.

You create homes so you're environmental.

You create agriculture so we're food.

And we all wanted to reduce the stress thing, right?

We didn't call it that, but that's what it was.

And then we got to the year 2000 or so and we realized, oh, fuck.

Maybe that was the wrong target.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, shout out, Michael.

It's a great book.

When we have astronauts come back from the International Space Station, getting people to live on Mars, it's a bit of a rocket problem, but it's a bigger physiology problem.

And this HDT project, part of the people we're working with is Cody Burkhardt, who runs Human Works at NASA.

Figuring out that line of going, hey, you don't want to release stress.

If you do, like what happens when we send people up to space because there's no gravity, your physiology tanks really quickly.

They come back, oftentimes astronauts come back and they can't physically walk for a few days.

Because in that case, that aspect, now other aspects of stress are way up.