Dr. Andy Galpin

So you have kind of over on one end of the spectrum, unless it's been shown in five randomized control, double-blind placebo studies, I'm not taking it. Okay, fine. I personally don't live in that world. I deal with most of the athletes and clients are never gonna have a randomized control trial on them, population-wise.

Other folks, other than the spectrum, is if there's even a plausible cell culture study, like I'm all in.

Other folks, other than the spectrum, is if there's even a plausible cell culture study, like I'm all in.

Okay. I'm probably in the middle. If I would be honest, I'm a little bit hedged more towards the right, the clinical trial. Let me see it in humans at least. Ideally not in just like a case study only. Okay. A variable I care about, somewhat trained or whatever population I'm looking at. So my personal bias is I'm there. What that means is I'm sometimes slow, sometimes behind.

Okay. I'm probably in the middle. If I would be honest, I'm a little bit hedged more towards the right, the clinical trial. Let me see it in humans at least. Ideally not in just like a case study only. Okay. A variable I care about, somewhat trained or whatever population I'm looking at. So my personal bias is I'm there. What that means is I'm sometimes slow, sometimes behind.

People are taking things before I would. But I'm okay there because on aggregate, I generally win in the sense that I avoid things, not taking things. I stop doing procedures and products where other people have tried because I'm like, well, eventually it turned out to sort of not work.

People are taking things before I would. But I'm okay there because on aggregate, I generally win in the sense that I avoid things, not taking things. I stop doing procedures and products where other people have tried because I'm like, well, eventually it turned out to sort of not work.

So I think it's fine. People can be wherever on the spectrum I want. I don't think there's any issue as long as they are either aware with themselves or their athletes or clients or customers where they're at on that journey. For me, collagen was on that left end. It was very much, I don't see much here. I don't see which are plausible. Then some human studies came. I didn't see much there.

So I think it's fine. People can be wherever on the spectrum I want. I don't think there's any issue as long as they are either aware with themselves or their athletes or clients or customers where they're at on that journey. For me, collagen was on that left end. It was very much, I don't see much here. I don't see which are plausible. Then some human studies came. I didn't see much there.

It's changed. Like it really has changed recently, so much so now where I think, okay, I think there is something here, there, and there's enough for me to take action. So we have integrated collagen a lot more on this. So where are you at on that spectrum? Tell us about that study you did there, what you guys learned, and in general, your take.

It's changed. Like it really has changed recently, so much so now where I think, okay, I think there is something here, there, and there's enough for me to take action. So we have integrated collagen a lot more on this. So where are you at on that spectrum? Tell us about that study you did there, what you guys learned, and in general, your take.

And it's usually at a very low total protein intake and things like that.

And it's usually at a very low total protein intake and things like that.

He says it a little more aggressively than that, but okay. Yeah.

He says it a little more aggressively than that, but okay. Yeah.

That's right around the number, right? Where if you see bone mineral density changes in six months, you probably have to be in a severe drug protocol, damage protocol, caloric restriction protocol or something. By 12, you'll see it. So I only want to flag that for people to realize if you're looking at body composition, muscle growth, performance, sleep, digest, those can happen in weeks. Right.

That's right around the number, right? Where if you see bone mineral density changes in six months, you probably have to be in a severe drug protocol, damage protocol, caloric restriction protocol or something. By 12, you'll see it. So I only want to flag that for people to realize if you're looking at body composition, muscle growth, performance, sleep, digest, those can happen in weeks. Right.

Bone takes a very long time. And I think you nailed it. Nine months is probably right on that tipping point. Yeah, it was.

Bone takes a very long time. And I think you nailed it. Nine months is probably right on that tipping point. Yeah, it was.

We'll see.