Dr. Aseem Malhotra

If you are in a job, Megan, that is high demand, low control, low pay, you're on the minimum wage, which I understand in the US, certainly pre-pandemic, was about $7.25, then that can be more damaging to health. The stress associated with being in those sorts of conditions, Megan, can be more damaging to health than being unemployed. And what's the mechanism?

The underlying mechanism is severe chronic stress. So if you have chronic stress over your lifespan, if you're, for example, brought up in a family, if you're a child that is in a deprived family or you're a victim of severe psychological abuse or emotional abuse, that starts to already have an effect on the disease process that will cut your life short later down the line.

The underlying mechanism is severe chronic stress. So if you have chronic stress over your lifespan, if you're, for example, brought up in a family, if you're a child that is in a deprived family or you're a victim of severe psychological abuse or emotional abuse, that starts to already have an effect on the disease process that will cut your life short later down the line.

The underlying mechanism is severe chronic stress. So if you have chronic stress over your lifespan, if you're, for example, brought up in a family, if you're a child that is in a deprived family or you're a victim of severe psychological abuse or emotional abuse, that starts to already have an effect on the disease process that will cut your life short later down the line.

These are the conversations we need to start having. So that's why what's really fascinating is, you know, it's about health through all sectors. So we need to look at the Department of Education, housing, et cetera, and say they, those departments, those, you know, agencies, if you like, they need to be having health at the forefront, you know.

These are the conversations we need to start having. So that's why what's really fascinating is, you know, it's about health through all sectors. So we need to look at the Department of Education, housing, et cetera, and say they, those departments, those, you know, agencies, if you like, they need to be having health at the forefront, you know.

These are the conversations we need to start having. So that's why what's really fascinating is, you know, it's about health through all sectors. So we need to look at the Department of Education, housing, et cetera, and say they, those departments, those, you know, agencies, if you like, they need to be having health at the forefront, you know.

There's something I was reading really interestingly recently is that Thomas Jefferson in 1809 in an address to Republicans in Washington said, the care of health and human happiness and not its destruction is the first and most important object of good government. That's Thomas Jefferson, right? For me, it's not about big government or small government.

There's something I was reading really interestingly recently is that Thomas Jefferson in 1809 in an address to Republicans in Washington said, the care of health and human happiness and not its destruction is the first and most important object of good government. That's Thomas Jefferson, right? For me, it's not about big government or small government.

There's something I was reading really interestingly recently is that Thomas Jefferson in 1809 in an address to Republicans in Washington said, the care of health and human happiness and not its destruction is the first and most important object of good government. That's Thomas Jefferson, right? For me, it's not about big government or small government.

It's about good government, because ultimately, the politicians have the control over laws to ensure that we create conditions so that everybody, Megan, who's going to disagree with that, has the best opportunity to lead the best life they can in terms of their health. And this isn't just about people who are not well off. During the pandemic, Megan,

It's about good government, because ultimately, the politicians have the control over laws to ensure that we create conditions so that everybody, Megan, who's going to disagree with that, has the best opportunity to lead the best life they can in terms of their health. And this isn't just about people who are not well off. During the pandemic, Megan,

It's about good government, because ultimately, the politicians have the control over laws to ensure that we create conditions so that everybody, Megan, who's going to disagree with that, has the best opportunity to lead the best life they can in terms of their health. And this isn't just about people who are not well off. During the pandemic, Megan,

And Boris Johnson, our prime minister, I mean, I commented on this. He got hospitalized with COVID. And I said it's because of, it's likely because of his weight. I said it in a compassionate way. He was after he came out. I didn't say when he was in hospital. And, you know, that became a big story because he was, and he admitted it, obese. And this is a guy who's got agency. He's got wealth.

And Boris Johnson, our prime minister, I mean, I commented on this. He got hospitalized with COVID. And I said it's because of, it's likely because of his weight. I said it in a compassionate way. He was after he came out. I didn't say when he was in hospital. And, you know, that became a big story because he was, and he admitted it, obese. And this is a guy who's got agency. He's got wealth.

And Boris Johnson, our prime minister, I mean, I commented on this. He got hospitalized with COVID. And I said it's because of, it's likely because of his weight. I said it in a compassionate way. He was after he came out. I didn't say when he was in hospital. And, you know, that became a big story because he was, and he admitted it, obese. And this is a guy who's got agency. He's got wealth.

Right. And this tells us that all of us really are in this because we're affected by this ultra processed food environment. We've been misled about information about cholesterol, about what's a healthy diet. So I think all of this is going to be uncovered under Trump's administration, under the leadership, certainly on health of Robert Kennedy Jr.

Right. And this tells us that all of us really are in this because we're affected by this ultra processed food environment. We've been misled about information about cholesterol, about what's a healthy diet. So I think all of this is going to be uncovered under Trump's administration, under the leadership, certainly on health of Robert Kennedy Jr.

Right. And this tells us that all of us really are in this because we're affected by this ultra processed food environment. We've been misled about information about cholesterol, about what's a healthy diet. So I think all of this is going to be uncovered under Trump's administration, under the leadership, certainly on health of Robert Kennedy Jr.

Megan, I think you've hit the nail on the head and that's the elephant in the room. I think everything that underpins what's really driving the root of the problem is the chronic stress. And it comes down to how we live, how we interact with each other as well.