Dr. Atul Gawande

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who keep their own records of deaths.

So one of the things I found was that their own records showed that they are measuring an overall tenfold increase in child and adult deaths.

I can't exactly parse it out, but a huge amount of it.

You know, went from 42 deaths in those seven sub-counties for children, for example, over two years, 2023 to 2024.

And those deaths rose to 214 that they recorded.

I also met with villagers and learned of dozens of cases of direct effects.

I'll give you an example.

One was a woman I met in a community called Machar, and her name was Nyajek Guy Gwal.

Her niece was staying with her, a two-year-old girl who developed the symptoms of a pneumonia.

The clinic that would have been there to take the girl to was no longer there.

In order to travel, she had to go three hours walking and by canoe.

They, you know, attempted to do resuscitation.

She had already gone into organ failure and died.

Completely avoidable, and I found numerous cases like these.

It's heartbreaking and devastating to see the people we've abandoned.

They first and foremost are furious at their own government.

These are people led by leaders who've been at war with each other for now on and off for a couple of decades.

Part of our role there has been to be a steady force of support against suffering.

America is loved there and that has not faded.

How is that possible?

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