Dr. Barry Baines

And when I'm talking with my patients, it doesn't really doesn't make a difference what their political, you know, who they vote for.

It's, you know, how do we keep, you know, how do we keep them healthy?

And so in physicians offices, and many people might not know this, is that we do rely on public health information.

in order to make better decisions and helping our patients.

And then one other piece I just want to talk about, maybe I'm reading a little bit too much science fiction with dystopian universes and things like that.

But what I'm most afraid of is seeing the dismantling of a structure and information

not only locally, but globally, you know, John, as you pointed out, and my biggest fear is that we're going to have like a descent into the dark ages, you know, I mean, it's a different version, but a version of the dark ages and health, um, because we're going to lose so much and it's, you know, it's much easier to wreck something than it is to build up again.

If you ever did any house stuff, you know, I did kitchen remodeling.

Well, I had

people to do the remodeling, but I got to use a sledgehammer and within two hours, I knocked out walls and stuff like that.

It doesn't take long to wreck something, but you can't put that wall back up in two hours.

And that's to me is how do we maintain enough reserve so that when we get to a time of reversing the destruction and go back to

you know, building what would be a better society and better health, you know, et cetera.

So that's the stuff that makes me lose sleep, quite honestly.

I think the key here is this collaborative idea as being very important because

what we're talking about here, every other state is experiencing the same situation.

And, you know, like, you know, united we stand, divided we fall, to use an old cliche, but I think that that's really very, very true.

And the second point is I'm very grateful for

uh, having this conversation today.

And, and this clearly, uh, is not a one and done.