Dr. Barry Baines

people to do the remodeling, but I got to use a sledgehammer and within two hours, I knocked out walls and stuff like that.

It doesn't take long to wreck something, but you can't put that wall back up in two hours.

And that's to me is how do we maintain enough reserve so that when we get to a time of reversing the destruction and go back to

you know, building what would be a better society and better health, you know, et cetera.

So that's the stuff that makes me lose sleep, quite honestly.

I think the key here is this collaborative idea as being very important because

what we're talking about here, every other state is experiencing the same situation.

And, you know, like, you know, united we stand, divided we fall, to use an old cliche, but I think that that's really very, very true.

And the second point is I'm very grateful for

uh, having this conversation today.

And, and this clearly, uh, is not a one and done.

Uh, um, I, I think that, um, you know, because of mass communication and marketing.

So John, you would know this.

So you have to repeat things like eight times before the message, you know, sinks in and Stan, I'm not suggesting that we have eight episodes, but

but it probably wouldn't hurt.

So be thinking about that.

And I know that we have actually plans for more conversations about this.

And I think that's one of the first steps that I'm seeing is to be talking much more about this and engaging people in conversations.

And then some of the guests that we've had on over the past number of months could actually be very helpful

as part of the conversation to move ahead and look further into this collaborative idea across border as well to make some of these things happen to just really strengthen what infrastructure we're gonna have left and still be able to move forward.