Dr. Ben Bikman

So that's right.

And so it's almost... It's a little unfair because that's not how most people are getting their carbs these days.

And just to put a fine point on that point, 70% of all calories consumed globally, it's about 60% in the U.S., are carbohydrates.

And they're not coming from leafy greens and berries and citrus fruits.

It's coming from bags and boxes with barcodes.

But nevertheless...

That's an interesting finding.

My criticism of that is, one, it's an extremely short-term study, and there are longer studies that we ought to highlight just to offset this very short study, but at the same time,

When you're eating so much fruits and vegetables, you're putting a lot of bulk in your stomach.

And it didn't surprise me that these may be people who within just two weeks on this diet were just probably having a lot of bloating and gas from eating a lot of plants when they probably weren't eating that many plants before they started the diet.

So it didn't entirely surprise me that they were spontaneously eating less.

I would personally enjoy eating more vegetables.

meat than I would big leafy greens and other fruits and vegetables.

So I would probably eat more calories.

The fact at the end of the two weeks, in fact, what's funny is I looked at the outcome and thought, okay, the low carb group was eating 700 calories more per day.

And you're telling me they only gained like one more, they only had one more pound of fat.

If anything, you could have looked at all that data and said, wow, there is a metabolic advantage to a low-carb diet.

In fact, some of the studies Kevin Hall, of his own work that he's tried to distance himself from, is finding that in a ketogenic state, people have a significantly higher metabolic rate.

And so perhaps one outcome of that study is that when a person gets to ketosis –

They were able to eat 700 calories more per day and only had one more pound of fat than the other group did.