Dr. Bethany Marshall

I would wonder if the FBI put out a request for leads or tips toward somebody who keeps bragging that they're gonna make money off of this crime.

somebody who's obsessed with her because they see her as a mark.

They see her as somebody that they are going to profit off of, and that delights them.

That makes her very exciting and captivating to them.

And Nancy, a couple of things that you just brought out on this show, the fact that the blood is from the nose, nose droplets potentially, and that it stops on the doorstep makes me so sad because that means somebody stemmed the bleeding

by putting their hand over her face.

That's the kind of person who's holding Ms.

Guthrie.

And the other thing, when I see some guy fiddling with a camera at 5 a.m.

in a neighborhood, probably where there are many seniors, it makes me wonder, is there some slim possibility that this was not targeted?

That somebody was going from doorstep to doorstep trying to find somebody that they could reach

abduct, kidnap, something like this.

It just opens up more questions to me rather than resolving them.

However, I'll tell you something, Nancy, she may be a pawn, she may be a thing, but they've been thinking about her for a long, long time.

Reminds me of a patient who came in and could not stop talking about his grandma, obsessed about his grandma.

And I finally realized he was obsessed with her because he was trying to drain her bank account.

So there was a lot of talking about it before I finally realized that he was actually using the therapy to commit a crime.

Obviously, I stopped seeing him.

So there's somebody in some household out there who has a father, a brother, a son, somebody in their lives who has been talking about Nancy Guthrie for a long, long time.

That could be a very important behavioral clue in terms of finding the perpetrator.