Dr. Bethany Marshall

Oh, well, promises of wealth.

I'm going to take you on a big trip.

I'm going to buy you a new car.

Our ship is coming in.

Preoccupation with the news, wanting to talk about all the little tidbits that have come out.

I don't think that what we should or family members should be watching for is somebody who's actually avoiding talking about this.

but somebody who is quite captivated by it because, you know, when you have a mark, when you're a perpetrator and you're going to benefit financially from something, you want to talk about it all the time.

So I think it's going to be in the conversations people are hearing in their households.

Think about if you're sitting around the dinner table with your family

All of a sudden, there's one family member that says, oh, let's talk about the Guthrie case.

What do you think about older people living alone?

Oh, do you think the ransom's going to be paid?

Do you think Nancy's still alive?

Excited conversation, not sad, excited conversation.

That's what family members, girlfriends, wives, children, whatever, that's what they need to be watching out for.

That is absolutely right.

And that goes to the third ransom note, right?

Is that in this third ransom note, this person who writes it or sends it does not seem to show any concern about Nancy Guthrie.

It's kind of all about himself.

So also another thing to listen for in conversations around the table or on a date or whatever, is a person talking about how someone could benefit from abducting an older person, or they're talking about