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Dr. Bret Devereaux

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The Prancing Pony Podcast
415 – Saruman’s OPSEC Problem: Unfinished Tales with Dr. Bret Devereaux

So he beats up the front of Sauron's army and then gets out of Dodge.

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The Prancing Pony Podcast
415 – Saruman’s OPSEC Problem: Unfinished Tales with Dr. Bret Devereaux

And...

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The Prancing Pony Podcast
415 – Saruman’s OPSEC Problem: Unfinished Tales with Dr. Bret Devereaux

We don't get details, but it's not hard to imagine situations where the way the battle develops, he can't retreat back into the city.

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The Prancing Pony Podcast
415 – Saruman’s OPSEC Problem: Unfinished Tales with Dr. Bret Devereaux

Or alternately, he doesn't want to retreat back into the city because he wants to maintain the ability to maneuver and not get locked up.

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The Prancing Pony Podcast
415 – Saruman’s OPSEC Problem: Unfinished Tales with Dr. Bret Devereaux

He's like, he knows the city is going to get locked up.

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The Prancing Pony Podcast
415 – Saruman’s OPSEC Problem: Unfinished Tales with Dr. Bret Devereaux

Like, I want to stay broken out.

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The Prancing Pony Podcast
415 – Saruman’s OPSEC Problem: Unfinished Tales with Dr. Bret Devereaux

There are defenders inside the city.

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The Prancing Pony Podcast
415 – Saruman’s OPSEC Problem: Unfinished Tales with Dr. Bret Devereaux

They'll last for a long time.

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The Prancing Pony Podcast
415 – Saruman’s OPSEC Problem: Unfinished Tales with Dr. Bret Devereaux

I want to stay out in the open where I can maybe get around and cause some mischief.

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The Prancing Pony Podcast
415 – Saruman’s OPSEC Problem: Unfinished Tales with Dr. Bret Devereaux

He loops up with Elrond.

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The Prancing Pony Podcast
415 – Saruman’s OPSEC Problem: Unfinished Tales with Dr. Bret Devereaux

Sauron knows this has happened.

1541.123 View full episode →
The Prancing Pony Podcast
415 – Saruman’s OPSEC Problem: Unfinished Tales with Dr. Bret Devereaux

So presumably, like we're told, he has a strong enough host to also block out Elrond.

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The Prancing Pony Podcast
415 – Saruman’s OPSEC Problem: Unfinished Tales with Dr. Bret Devereaux

We're not told, but what I think we should assume he's doing here is contravelation, where now having built a wall facing inward, you form your army into a donut with a second wall facing outward.

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The Prancing Pony Podcast
415 – Saruman’s OPSEC Problem: Unfinished Tales with Dr. Bret Devereaux

One of the really famous examples of this is Julius Caesar's Siege of Alessia, where he's got Vercingetorix's army in this hilltop fortress, and so he builds a Roman defensive line around the base of it, as you do.

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The Prancing Pony Podcast
415 – Saruman’s OPSEC Problem: Unfinished Tales with Dr. Bret Devereaux

Mm-hmm.

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The Prancing Pony Podcast
415 – Saruman’s OPSEC Problem: Unfinished Tales with Dr. Bret Devereaux

The Romans love themselves some field fortifications.

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The Prancing Pony Podcast
415 – Saruman’s OPSEC Problem: Unfinished Tales with Dr. Bret Devereaux

And then because Vercingetorix has gotten messengers out to call for help and he knows a whole bunch more Gauls are going to show up behind him, he builds a complete second line of defenses facing outward to prepare for their arrival.

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The Prancing Pony Podcast
415 – Saruman’s OPSEC Problem: Unfinished Tales with Dr. Bret Devereaux

And they end up trying to break through his forces and failing.

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The Prancing Pony Podcast
415 – Saruman’s OPSEC Problem: Unfinished Tales with Dr. Bret Devereaux

And this leads to Caesar winning as he usually does.

1593.664 View full episode →
The Prancing Pony Podcast
415 – Saruman’s OPSEC Problem: Unfinished Tales with Dr. Bret Devereaux

But so you end up with two complete lines of fortifications facing in opposite directions and your army arranged as kind of a donut.

1596.066 View full episode →