Dr. Cal Newport

They don't have an addictive response to it.

If they get an iPad with a game on it, they'll just like play that until their eyes bleed because those are meant to be addictive.

So I'm wary about video games.

But there it's all just a usage game.

So you stick away from the more addictive games.

It's a much easier problem to solve, I think, than the social media issue.

Yeah.

I mean, I'll tell you personally, I can only do fiction and audio books.

Because when I'm in a nonfiction experience, I'm just very used to constantly looking for connections and ideas.

And so I have to be able to slow down and then speed up and then go back to something I just read.

So I really have a distressing experience trying to listen to nonfiction audiobooks.

Fiction is fine.

That's great.

Let me put a thriller on an Audible.

Great.

I'll listen to it.

And I think some of this might be particular to my engagement with books, which is I'm a writer and a thinker, so I'm constantly looking for ideas.

And so I might have a different engagement with a nonfiction book than someone just listening to one of my books.

But I can only do fiction on audio.

I mean I think it's more specific than that, right?