Dr. Cali Estes
👤 SpeakerAppearances Over Time
Podcast Appearances
And I would come home and, you know, he would pawn stuff and then be able to get it back.
So I didn't know.
I had no idea.
And then things started to happen and I took him on a trip and he detoxed on the trip.
And that's how I knew.
I'm like, you're addicted to opiates.
So then it became, we're going to get you sober.
And then he would get like a pocket of sobriety, a year here, a year there.
And then his dad died.
And it was like, oh, you know, that started up again.
And then he got that year sober again.
And we'd be going, you know, back to normal.
And then something else would trigger.
He got kicked off the tour with Eric Sardinas.
So then after that, it was like, okay, new trigger.
And then another year, and then he'd get another year sober.
So he was getting pockets of sobriety, but then he would go backwards.
And then COVID hit.
Band fell apart.
He had nowhere to go.