Dr. Cali Estes

While they're smoking a cigarette, which is a drug.

While they're eating a honey bun and a Snickers bar, which is sugar, which is the most addictive drug on the planet, which is almost the same chemical makeup as heroin.

And they're telling me to get sober.

I'm sorry, I can't.

And I went to meetings in the beginning and I couldn't do it.

I can't get sober with all the other drugs around.

So for me, I tell my clients, you can go, if it works for you, do it.

If that's what works for you, do it.

But most people go, I can't do it.

I can't do it in the room.

Or there's somebody up there preaching or whatever the issue is.

So, I mean, I'm kind of been the alternative to that.

I do have clients that go and I have clients that won't go.

I am not gonna answer things on the grounds that it's gonna incriminate me.

The current system.

I think there are great things about our current system.

I think there's some pitfalls.

For me, the first thing I would outlaw that I do not like is that you can buy over-the-counter drugs in a gas station.

that these kids are taking and they're getting addicted to.

The Kava's there and they.