Dr. Caroline Fleck

to relieve it and it kills me that this person I care so much about is in this exact same situation but I got through it and I won't quit I will do whatever I can to see how to get you through it okay there is a connection there there's you know you can feel that um again it's I see myself in you I'm not better than you we're in this together that's what disclosure can do

to relieve it and it kills me that this person I care so much about is in this exact same situation but I got through it and I won't quit I will do whatever I can to see how to get you through it okay there is a connection there there's you know you can feel that um again it's I see myself in you I'm not better than you we're in this together that's what disclosure can do

Remember when I said the higher you go, the harder it hurts. Oh, right, right, right. Right.

Remember when I said the higher you go, the harder it hurts. Oh, right, right, right. Right.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes. Yes.

Yes. Yes.

That's right. That's right. And I have all sorts of tips in the book around how to kind of repair if you think you've screwed up, how to avoid making some mistakes there. But the fact of the matter is, I can't emphasize this enough. It's a skill. All right. And so if you want to get good at this, you practice it. you practice it.

That's right. That's right. And I have all sorts of tips in the book around how to kind of repair if you think you've screwed up, how to avoid making some mistakes there. But the fact of the matter is, I can't emphasize this enough. It's a skill. All right. And so if you want to get good at this, you practice it. you practice it.

I wasn't coming on podcasts saying that I had had ECT and major depression. I figured out a way to communicate that in a way that feels effective to me and focused on the topic.

I wasn't coming on podcasts saying that I had had ECT and major depression. I figured out a way to communicate that in a way that feels effective to me and focused on the topic.

Well, you don't have to wait to the last moment. So that's an important point. With validation, you want to go as high as you can. authentically and effectively. So if I get it right away, I could go for it. Yeah. But if I don't have rapport with the person and I don't know, so I have, I've made that mistake actually once with emoting.

Well, you don't have to wait to the last moment. So that's an important point. With validation, you want to go as high as you can. authentically and effectively. So if I get it right away, I could go for it. Yeah. But if I don't have rapport with the person and I don't know, so I have, I've made that mistake actually once with emoting.

But I remember with a client whose mother, this mother had come to see me. Her daughter had gone to one of these like wilderness programs, which are just a complete scam. She was there for eight weeks, came back and attempted suicide and was in the ICU.

But I remember with a client whose mother, this mother had come to see me. Her daughter had gone to one of these like wilderness programs, which are just a complete scam. She was there for eight weeks, came back and attempted suicide and was in the ICU.

And mom was devastated. Mom's seeking treatment for her. And she's telling me about this and I'm allowing myself to just kind of tear up a little bit.

And mom was devastated. Mom's seeking treatment for her. And she's telling me about this and I'm allowing myself to just kind of tear up a little bit.

Okay. Because I am feeling like just, oh, I hate the system and this poor kid. I'm just having all this stuff. And I just, I lost control of it. I work with suicide and self-harm day in and day out, but I just got worked up. I like lost control.

Okay. Because I am feeling like just, oh, I hate the system and this poor kid. I'm just having all this stuff. And I just, I lost control of it. I work with suicide and self-harm day in and day out, but I just got worked up. I like lost control.