Dr. Caroline Fleck

Yeah, that's right. So up to that point, we had a lot of behavioral treatments, think reinforcement, shaping, right? Or cognitive behavioral treatments, which focus not just on changing how you behave, but also how you think. Those are very change-focused approaches, which works well if you want change and if you're willing to take feedback.

Yeah, that's right. So up to that point, we had a lot of behavioral treatments, think reinforcement, shaping, right? Or cognitive behavioral treatments, which focus not just on changing how you behave, but also how you think. Those are very change-focused approaches, which works well if you want change and if you're willing to take feedback.

Yeah, that's right. So up to that point, we had a lot of behavioral treatments, think reinforcement, shaping, right? Or cognitive behavioral treatments, which focus not just on changing how you behave, but also how you think. Those are very change-focused approaches, which works well if you want change and if you're willing to take feedback.

If you don't, if you don't trust your own capacity for change, if you don't trust the person across from you, or I don't know if you're an adolescent or somebody who's just like pretty resistant to a lot of what's coming in, it's not going to work. It just won't, okay?

If you don't, if you don't trust your own capacity for change, if you don't trust the person across from you, or I don't know if you're an adolescent or somebody who's just like pretty resistant to a lot of what's coming in, it's not going to work. It just won't, okay?

If you don't, if you don't trust your own capacity for change, if you don't trust the person across from you, or I don't know if you're an adolescent or somebody who's just like pretty resistant to a lot of what's coming in, it's not going to work. It just won't, okay?

And what we found is that when we combine some degree of validation or acceptance, when we emphasize that as much, if not more than change, people end up making pretty big transformations. Yeah, so the message is in DVT or at least in this treatment for BPD is I'm doing the best I can and I need to do better. So it's being able to hold those two things simultaneously

And what we found is that when we combine some degree of validation or acceptance, when we emphasize that as much, if not more than change, people end up making pretty big transformations. Yeah, so the message is in DVT or at least in this treatment for BPD is I'm doing the best I can and I need to do better. So it's being able to hold those two things simultaneously

And what we found is that when we combine some degree of validation or acceptance, when we emphasize that as much, if not more than change, people end up making pretty big transformations. Yeah, so the message is in DVT or at least in this treatment for BPD is I'm doing the best I can and I need to do better. So it's being able to hold those two things simultaneously

that is um that's where kind of the magic happens that's so cool yeah it is cool is there not the concern though that that might bleed into normalizing sure dysfunctional harmful behaviors absolutely i don't validate um experiences that aren't valid so for instance um I can validate why somebody would want to abuse substances.

that is um that's where kind of the magic happens that's so cool yeah it is cool is there not the concern though that that might bleed into normalizing sure dysfunctional harmful behaviors absolutely i don't validate um experiences that aren't valid so for instance um I can validate why somebody would want to abuse substances.

that is um that's where kind of the magic happens that's so cool yeah it is cool is there not the concern though that that might bleed into normalizing sure dysfunctional harmful behaviors absolutely i don't validate um experiences that aren't valid so for instance um I can validate why somebody would want to abuse substances.

I can totally validate why someone who came from a family in which drug abuse was pervasive, was all they saw, And it's now functioned to help them get through life and be more social and be more extra. I can validate all of the reasons why that person would want to use substances. And at the same time, I can say, I don't agree with that behavior. It's not effective for you. It's not working out.

I can totally validate why someone who came from a family in which drug abuse was pervasive, was all they saw, And it's now functioned to help them get through life and be more social and be more extra. I can validate all of the reasons why that person would want to use substances. And at the same time, I can say, I don't agree with that behavior. It's not effective for you. It's not working out.

I can totally validate why someone who came from a family in which drug abuse was pervasive, was all they saw, And it's now functioned to help them get through life and be more social and be more extra. I can validate all of the reasons why that person would want to use substances. And at the same time, I can say, I don't agree with that behavior. It's not effective for you. It's not working out.

So on some level, I have to be able to validate why you're in this situation, why you want to do what you're doing, if I'm actually going to challenge that behavior. Otherwise, I don't get it.

So on some level, I have to be able to validate why you're in this situation, why you want to do what you're doing, if I'm actually going to challenge that behavior. Otherwise, I don't get it.

So on some level, I have to be able to validate why you're in this situation, why you want to do what you're doing, if I'm actually going to challenge that behavior. Otherwise, I don't get it.

Yes, that's exactly right. I actually think of... An example of validation came from my daughter. So if she's wanting to use, so she wants a smartphone, all right? She's 11, and I'm a psychologist, so she's not getting a smartphone right now. If she was to come at me as she does and says, all my friends have smartphones, it's so unfair, you don't get it.

Yes, that's exactly right. I actually think of... An example of validation came from my daughter. So if she's wanting to use, so she wants a smartphone, all right? She's 11, and I'm a psychologist, so she's not getting a smartphone right now. If she was to come at me as she does and says, all my friends have smartphones, it's so unfair, you don't get it.