Dr. Caroline Fleck

She has MS and she was like then she went into remission based on the health, the diet changes she made, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I know, man. And that's the line in the sand. Like, oh, it's so hard for me.

I know, man. And that's the line in the sand. Like, oh, it's so hard for me.

I know, man. And that's the line in the sand. Like, oh, it's so hard for me.

I know.

I know.

I know.

I am such an animal lover. And beyond that, I think we've done such a profound... just disservice and abuse to animals that I feel like if, even if it took years off my life, I would, uh, accept that over, um, engaging in a lifestyle that would contribute to any further contribution to it, which is messed. I know that's messed up.

I am such an animal lover. And beyond that, I think we've done such a profound... just disservice and abuse to animals that I feel like if, even if it took years off my life, I would, uh, accept that over, um, engaging in a lifestyle that would contribute to any further contribution to it, which is messed. I know that's messed up.

I am such an animal lover. And beyond that, I think we've done such a profound... just disservice and abuse to animals that I feel like if, even if it took years off my life, I would, uh, accept that over, um, engaging in a lifestyle that would contribute to any further contribution to it, which is messed. I know that's messed up.

Yeah. But it's gonna, it might kill me, but, uh,

Yeah. But it's gonna, it might kill me, but, uh,

Yeah. But it's gonna, it might kill me, but, uh,

No, but it's bad. It's so bad. It's so bad.

No, but it's bad. It's so bad. It's so bad.

No, but it's bad. It's so bad. It's so bad.

I think that is the only, in my opinion, like way to reconcile that cognitive dissonance, right? Like to say that I really care about animals, but I'm going to participate in an industry that systematically abuses and tortures them. That doesn't make sense.

I think that is the only, in my opinion, like way to reconcile that cognitive dissonance, right? Like to say that I really care about animals, but I'm going to participate in an industry that systematically abuses and tortures them. That doesn't make sense.

I think that is the only, in my opinion, like way to reconcile that cognitive dissonance, right? Like to say that I really care about animals, but I'm going to participate in an industry that systematically abuses and tortures them. That doesn't make sense.

Now, if you say I deeply care about animals and therefore I'm going to select and really put my money behind folks who are trying to change that industry, that I can respect. Unfortunately, I often doubt the, actors in the positions of changing it. Like it takes so much research to really know and understand the distribution process and what's going on there.