Dr. Catherine DeVries

But at any rate, it did not feel like it was particularly groundbreaking while I was in medical school. It was only once I got into urology and I looked around and there was nobody there that it seemed a little, it's not exactly lonely because there were plenty of guys and I was so busy I didn't have time to think about that. But in terms of mentorship, there really wasn't any.

Well, it was a very small program, so it was hard to be alone. There were only two residents per year. So it was a long trip in a small boat, in a canoe, really, because we all knew each other very, very well. But there were not many women, and the first time I really met other women was five years into my training when I went to the basic science course.

Well, it was a very small program, so it was hard to be alone. There were only two residents per year. So it was a long trip in a small boat, in a canoe, really, because we all knew each other very, very well. But there were not many women, and the first time I really met other women was five years into my training when I went to the basic science course.

Well, it was a very small program, so it was hard to be alone. There were only two residents per year. So it was a long trip in a small boat, in a canoe, really, because we all knew each other very, very well. But there were not many women, and the first time I really met other women was five years into my training when I went to the basic science course.

And there, there were women from Baylor, women in Washington. You know, I met several women, other women trainees, and I was amazed that some programs actually had two trainees. or three in the pipeline.

And there, there were women from Baylor, women in Washington. You know, I met several women, other women trainees, and I was amazed that some programs actually had two trainees. or three in the pipeline.

And there, there were women from Baylor, women in Washington. You know, I met several women, other women trainees, and I was amazed that some programs actually had two trainees. or three in the pipeline.

I finished in 1990. Okay.

I finished in 1990. Okay.

I finished in 1990. Okay.

Yes. And at that time, I was also raising two kids. So I was married and had two kids. And my husband was a resident in pediatrics and then anesthesia. So we were busy, very busy.

Yes. And at that time, I was also raising two kids. So I was married and had two kids. And my husband was a resident in pediatrics and then anesthesia. So we were busy, very busy.

Yes. And at that time, I was also raising two kids. So I was married and had two kids. And my husband was a resident in pediatrics and then anesthesia. So we were busy, very busy.

Well, you know, when I was looking at residency, it was before we had hours limits. So when we were on call, we were on call until the next day and somebody else was on call. And sometimes that was every other night. And very often that meant staying in the hospital all night. So looking at work-life balance or work-family balance, there really wasn't any such thing because my husband then, Dana,

Well, you know, when I was looking at residency, it was before we had hours limits. So when we were on call, we were on call until the next day and somebody else was on call. And sometimes that was every other night. And very often that meant staying in the hospital all night. So looking at work-life balance or work-family balance, there really wasn't any such thing because my husband then, Dana,

Well, you know, when I was looking at residency, it was before we had hours limits. So when we were on call, we were on call until the next day and somebody else was on call. And sometimes that was every other night. And very often that meant staying in the hospital all night. So looking at work-life balance or work-family balance, there really wasn't any such thing because my husband then, Dana,

was also on call in the hospital. So we had to have live-in help during that time. And we planned it this way because I started my residency a little older because I'd been in graduate school. And so I started when I was 30. And looking out at that time, there didn't seem to be other options. You either had your kids before residency or after residency.

was also on call in the hospital. So we had to have live-in help during that time. And we planned it this way because I started my residency a little older because I'd been in graduate school. And so I started when I was 30. And looking out at that time, there didn't seem to be other options. You either had your kids before residency or after residency.

was also on call in the hospital. So we had to have live-in help during that time. And we planned it this way because I started my residency a little older because I'd been in graduate school. And so I started when I was 30. And looking out at that time, there didn't seem to be other options. You either had your kids before residency or after residency.

And fertility medicine wasn't what it is now. I mean, I know residents and fellows who are women who are freezing their eggs because they want to have children sooner or later. They may not have a partner, they may want to get through their training, and they want to know that it's a possibility in the future. For us, it seemed like you either had them before or hoped it all worked out later.