Dr. Christopher Gardner

And it seems odd that he made a big deal of it because the vegans that were featured, in particular Michael and Charlie, one of them lost lean mass. The vegan lost lean mass. And who wants to lose muscle? That sucks. But that wasn't even an average data point. That was one data point.

Turns out Charlie moved three times during the eight weeks of the study, and he didn't follow Nimai's advice anyway. And he was having a hard time eating. So that's why you have more than one person in a study. You have lots of people. Never saw those data. People saw it featured on Netflix.

Turns out Charlie moved three times during the eight weeks of the study, and he didn't follow Nimai's advice anyway. And he was having a hard time eating. So that's why you have more than one person in a study. You have lots of people. Never saw those data. People saw it featured on Netflix.

Turns out Charlie moved three times during the eight weeks of the study, and he didn't follow Nimai's advice anyway. And he was having a hard time eating. So that's why you have more than one person in a study. You have lots of people. Never saw those data. People saw it featured on Netflix.

And the reason it was featured on Netflix, because then he got to show off Nimai, who's this totally ripped, buff, vegan dude on there. But people saw that, ah, I saw the Charlie data. He lost lean muscle. Gardner, you are so unethical. You left that out of the JAMA paper. You are manipulative. I can't believe you left data out of the paper to only show the things that were positive.

And the reason it was featured on Netflix, because then he got to show off Nimai, who's this totally ripped, buff, vegan dude on there. But people saw that, ah, I saw the Charlie data. He lost lean muscle. Gardner, you are so unethical. You left that out of the JAMA paper. You are manipulative. I can't believe you left data out of the paper to only show the things that were positive.

And the reason it was featured on Netflix, because then he got to show off Nimai, who's this totally ripped, buff, vegan dude on there. But people saw that, ah, I saw the Charlie data. He lost lean muscle. Gardner, you are so unethical. You left that out of the JAMA paper. You are manipulative. I can't believe you left data out of the paper to only show the things that were positive.

And my response was, I wish he could have said it was like only in the eight people. I never saw the data online. I didn't have them. I reported all the data that I said I would report. So that's sort of one.

And my response was, I wish he could have said it was like only in the eight people. I never saw the data online. I didn't have them. I reported all the data that I said I would report. So that's sort of one.

And my response was, I wish he could have said it was like only in the eight people. I never saw the data online. I didn't have them. I reported all the data that I said I would report. So that's sort of one.

I know.

I know.

I know.

Which is horrible science. Right. Which is not even science.

Which is horrible science. Right. Which is not even science.

Which is horrible science. Right. Which is not even science.

It wasn't science.

It wasn't science.

It wasn't science.

Okay, that sounds really good. Okay, so we were never pushing the vegan diet as a whole thing. It was just like, this is the study design, we have to do this. So another of their critiques comes from Peter Attia. And this is going to go back to a parking lot item from the beginning of our discussion when we were talking about ultra-processed foods and the need in science to isolate a variable.