Dr. David Burns

Yeah, yeah. So we'll finish it off with the final role reversal. But the fact is, Michael, and you better admit this, because you don't know what you're talking about. Yeah. And I'm an expert. I'm a big time expert.

Yeah, yeah. So we'll finish it off with the final role reversal. But the fact is, Michael, and you better admit this, because you don't know what you're talking about. Yeah. And I'm an expert. I'm a big time expert.

It's too easy now. Okay. You're up to bat, Rhonda.

It's too easy now. Okay. You're up to bat, Rhonda.

There's one thought left. You're not in the right place.

There's one thought left. You're not in the right place.

Let's hit Rhonda. Let's see how she handles it. Maybe we can make Rhonda anxious.

Let's hit Rhonda. Let's see how she handles it. Maybe we can make Rhonda anxious.

And this is just one of a large number of techniques you'll be learning in this two-day workshop. But the idea here is very simple, just to summarize, because sometimes these techniques seem sophisticated and people say, well, what's going on? What is this all about?

And this is just one of a large number of techniques you'll be learning in this two-day workshop. But the idea here is very simple, just to summarize, because sometimes these techniques seem sophisticated and people say, well, what's going on? What is this all about?

But what it's all about is that you, Michael, were kind enough to share with us three thoughts that have sometimes created tremendous anxiety for you in social situations, I'd say. I don't know what I'm talking about. People will think I don't know what I'm talking about. They'll think I'm not in the right place.

But what it's all about is that you, Michael, were kind enough to share with us three thoughts that have sometimes created tremendous anxiety for you in social situations, I'd say. I don't know what I'm talking about. People will think I don't know what I'm talking about. They'll think I'm not in the right place.

They'll think I'm kind of a fraud for trying to help out in the social anxiety workshop, but I myself have been afflicted with social anxiety since I was a child. And if you're just thinking about those things on your own, think, oh, this is what people are thinking about me, that's not going to do you much good. And then you can ask people, are you thinking this about me?

They'll think I'm kind of a fraud for trying to help out in the social anxiety workshop, but I myself have been afflicted with social anxiety since I was a child. And if you're just thinking about those things on your own, think, oh, this is what people are thinking about me, that's not going to do you much good. And then you can ask people, are you thinking this about me?

And they'll say, oh, no, I don't think that about you. But that won't do you much good either because you'll think, oh, they're just telling me what I want to hear. You know, they won't be honest.

And they'll say, oh, no, I don't think that about you. But that won't do you much good either because you'll think, oh, they're just telling me what I want to hear. You know, they won't be honest.

But with this technique, you can really kind of hit the ball out of the park and see that if there was a universe, an alternative universe, where people really have these negative thoughts about you and got up in your face and said them, you could easily – handle that, you know, to see that the absurdity is not with the one who's being criticized, but with these critics.

But with this technique, you can really kind of hit the ball out of the park and see that if there was a universe, an alternative universe, where people really have these negative thoughts about you and got up in your face and said them, you could easily – handle that, you know, to see that the absurdity is not with the one who's being criticized, but with these critics.

But as you had said earlier, and so wisely, Jacob, experiencing is 100% and book learning is about 0% value. And so it's doing these kinds of exercises in a workshop and beginning suddenly to experience yourself and others in a radically different way.

But as you had said earlier, and so wisely, Jacob, experiencing is 100% and book learning is about 0% value. And so it's doing these kinds of exercises in a workshop and beginning suddenly to experience yourself and others in a radically different way.