432: Finding Humans Less Scary Marathon Returns! Yay!
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Hello, and welcome to the Feeling Good Podcast, where you can learn powerful techniques to change the way you feel. I am your host, Dr. Rhonda Borowski, and joining me here in the Murrieta studio is Dr. David Burns. Dr. Burns is a pioneer in the development of cognitive behavioral therapy and the creator of the new Team Therapy. He's the author of Feeling Good, which has sold over 5 million copies in the United States and has been translated into over 30 languages. His latest book, Feeling Great, contains powerful new techniques that make rapid recovery possible for many people struggling with depression and anxiety. Dr. Burns is currently an emeritus adjunct professor of clinical psychiatry at Stanford University School of Medicine.
Hello, Rhonda.
Hello, David, and welcome to our listeners from all over the world and the universe. This is the Feeling Good Podcast, and we're on episode 432. We have two special guests today, two stars of Team CBT. We have Jacob Tauri, who's an extraordinary... child psychiatrist, one of David's first students, I understand. And we have Michael Luo, who is a psychiatric resident. He's at the Chicago Medical School at Rosalind Franklin University. He's in his second year of psychiatric residency and an up-and-coming team star. Hi, Michael.
Hello. Thanks for having us on.
And for the last two years, Jacob and Michael have put on a free weekend workshop that they've entitled Finding Humans Less Scary. And we're excited to announce that they're going to do it again in 2025. So we want to invite you to share about the past and to get us excited about this year's workshop.
This will be the third anniversary, right? Exactly. Mm-hmm.
Yeah, thank you guys for having us. It's great to be on here. Michael, do you want to start us off?
Yeah, sure. I would love to. So Jacob has always done miraculous work with a lot of teens when it comes to depression and anxiety. And one day he called me thinking about how to take it to the next level and how to help maybe even a bunch of people and scale up all at the same time. And through that, we started to host a couple of workshops called Finding Humans Less Scary. It is a social anxiety workshop held on the weekend. This weekend, it will be March 29th and March 30th from 930 to 530 p.m. all day. And it's a great place for people to really get out of their comfort zone and try a lot of social behavioral techniques and learn from the master himself, Jacob Towery.
Is that accurate? Well, one of the master's main accolades. Yes, of course.
I was going to say, yeah, I learned from the master himself, and I'm happy to be decent at it now.
Well, tell us about your workshop. I know the last two were smash hits. I also think that doing something that's inexpensive or free for the community is something that I always like to support and comes from the heart, comes from the right place. And I think that even leads to the success. But tell us what... What should we expect if we're going to attend this workshop? Should we come with our teenagers? Is it just for teenagers or for teens and adults? What's the age range? And what will happen in these two days? It sounds scary.
Yeah, it's a little scary. We will have people as young as 14. We're going to cap it this year at 135. So if you're over 135, you are not welcome at this workshop because it will probably be too demanding physically for you. If you're 135 or younger, we'd love to have you. Yeah, so I learned tremendous amounts about shyness and social anxiety from David and David's books, and we're going to be teaching people a lot of cool skills, learning how to talk to new people, learning how to start conversations, learning how to continue conversations, learning how to stop being self-conscious. We're going to have some flirtation training. We're going to have people learn how to get rejected and not take it personally and have it bother a person so much.
We'll talk a little bit about consent and We're going to do a lot of different interpersonal exercises to help people learn how to be skillfully vulnerable with others. And it's going to be fun. So it's going to be about 100 people in the room together. We'll have various fantastic people like Rhonda coming and assisting.
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