Dr. David Burns

And that's what's always been viewed as a kind of miracle, not a miracle in the sense that you're going to float in the air, but you'll feel like you're floating in the air.

And that's what's always been viewed as a kind of miracle, not a miracle in the sense that you're going to float in the air, but you'll feel like you're floating in the air.

toward the end of the workshop, because a lot of your burdens will be lifted and you'll feel lighter at the gut level and feeling like you have what it takes to get close to people and to develop connections, both superficial and then deeper, more vulnerable and meaningful connections.

toward the end of the workshop, because a lot of your burdens will be lifted and you'll feel lighter at the gut level and feeling like you have what it takes to get close to people and to develop connections, both superficial and then deeper, more vulnerable and meaningful connections.

You've done a lot of work in this area yourself, Jacob, and have probably experienced the terror at first of going outside of your orbit where you're comfortable. And I know you've done a lot of crazy and wild and fantastic things in your life. And because of your love for this problem is one of the reasons you put on this fantastic costume. two-day workshop every year.

You've done a lot of work in this area yourself, Jacob, and have probably experienced the terror at first of going outside of your orbit where you're comfortable. And I know you've done a lot of crazy and wild and fantastic things in your life. And because of your love for this problem is one of the reasons you put on this fantastic costume. two-day workshop every year.

But have you had to pay a price to become outgoing and to overcome your fears and insecurities, Jacob?

But have you had to pay a price to become outgoing and to overcome your fears and insecurities, Jacob?

How cool is that? And wasn't I the one who told you 10 years ago, Jacob, that all your effort learning Norwegian would one day pay off?

How cool is that? And wasn't I the one who told you 10 years ago, Jacob, that all your effort learning Norwegian would one day pay off?

That's a beautiful story. That is so great, Jacob. What a heartwarming thing. I have maybe one last question for you. I remember last couple of years when people register, they have to give something like $12 or something, $20 or something to a client. foundation of your choice. Is that still a part of the registration process? And if so, tell us how that works.

That's a beautiful story. That is so great, Jacob. What a heartwarming thing. I have maybe one last question for you. I remember last couple of years when people register, they have to give something like $12 or something, $20 or something to a client. foundation of your choice. Is that still a part of the registration process? And if so, tell us how that works.

Yeah. And how much will it be worth to them at the end of the conference?

Yeah. And how much will it be worth to them at the end of the conference?

How about a millionth?

How about a millionth?

Yeah, worth of joy and happiness and intimacy and connection and getting out of prison, the prison that we create with all of our negative thoughts and self-doubts and belief that we're not good enough. But what, Jacob, what if we discover that we're not good enough? What then?

Yeah, worth of joy and happiness and intimacy and connection and getting out of prison, the prison that we create with all of our negative thoughts and self-doubts and belief that we're not good enough. But what, Jacob, what if we discover that we're not good enough? What then?

Yeah, that's right. But you'll get these things at the gut level. You'll understand them, not just intellectually, but emotionally, and see what that little joke actually means. It's a very profound spiritual, really, concept, philosophical and spiritual and experiential concept. So the program, to spell it out, and we'll have the links and the show notes for you,

Yeah, that's right. But you'll get these things at the gut level. You'll understand them, not just intellectually, but emotionally, and see what that little joke actually means. It's a very profound spiritual, really, concept, philosophical and spiritual and experiential concept. So the program, to spell it out, and we'll have the links and the show notes for you,