Dr. David Burns

In other words, even when they're being exposed to their fears, they'll use mental things to try not to think about the exposure or the anxiety they're feeling, and that this tends to make the exposure ineffective.

In other words, even when they're being exposed to their fears, they'll use mental things to try not to think about the exposure or the anxiety they're feeling, and that this tends to make the exposure ineffective.

And so whenever I've worked with people with exposure, and let's say it's cognitive exposure, so they're imagining something they're afraid of and they've gotten up to 90% anxious, I'll always say, that's not high enough. Can you get it to 95%? And make it worse. And then when they get it to 95, I say, okay, you've got another five points. I really want you to freak out.

And so whenever I've worked with people with exposure, and let's say it's cognitive exposure, so they're imagining something they're afraid of and they've gotten up to 90% anxious, I'll always say, that's not high enough. Can you get it to 95%? And make it worse. And then when they get it to 95, I say, okay, you've got another five points. I really want you to freak out.

Can you make it up to 100? And so I think that helps patients avoid that safety behavior of avoiding the fear. And it also paradoxically gives the patient a message that it's okay to freak out. It's okay to feel the most intense anxiety ever. We're going to survive this together as a team.

Can you make it up to 100? And so I think that helps patients avoid that safety behavior of avoiding the fear. And it also paradoxically gives the patient a message that it's okay to freak out. It's okay to feel the most intense anxiety ever. We're going to survive this together as a team.

Yeah, we were up on Roos Ridge.

Yeah, we were up on Roos Ridge.

The Murrieta Studio. That's right, I forgot. This was the Murrieta Studio.

The Murrieta Studio. That's right, I forgot. This was the Murrieta Studio.

Yeah. With that avoidance, the anxiety will come back. It's not enough to overcome your anxiety. You have to keep after it on an ongoing basis. Right. Or it comes crumbling back in. Yep. And that sucks when that happens. And more power to you for tackling it again.

Yeah. With that avoidance, the anxiety will come back. It's not enough to overcome your anxiety. You have to keep after it on an ongoing basis. Right. Or it comes crumbling back in. Yep. And that sucks when that happens. And more power to you for tackling it again.

Oh, yeah, right.

Oh, yeah, right.

She kept after it after that 10-minute cure type of thing. She kept going into skyscrapers, elevators, and high buildings and kept after it. So it wasn't, you know, I think one and done is kind of misleading information.

She kept after it after that 10-minute cure type of thing. She kept going into skyscrapers, elevators, and high buildings and kept after it. So it wasn't, you know, I think one and done is kind of misleading information.

And one tiny point here, if you look at the DSM, it looks like people have one emotion. They'll get a major depressive episode or generalized anxiety disorder or a phobia. But what the statistics from our app research showed is that there's an unknown common cause in the brain that activates seven negative emotions simultaneously, probably more than seven, but we prove that it activates seven.

And one tiny point here, if you look at the DSM, it looks like people have one emotion. They'll get a major depressive episode or generalized anxiety disorder or a phobia. But what the statistics from our app research showed is that there's an unknown common cause in the brain that activates seven negative emotions simultaneously, probably more than seven, but we prove that it activates seven.

And you see that here, that it wasn't just the phobia, but there was shame and anger and frustration and inadequacy a lot of emotions getting activated simultaneously and that's because of this common cause and so you may be most focused on I have a driving phobia but that's associated with the activation of a lot of intense negative emotions at the same time that's a really good point

And you see that here, that it wasn't just the phobia, but there was shame and anger and frustration and inadequacy a lot of emotions getting activated simultaneously and that's because of this common cause and so you may be most focused on I have a driving phobia but that's associated with the activation of a lot of intense negative emotions at the same time that's a really good point