Dr. David Burns

Other cars will do what?

Other cars will do what?

Oh, yeah, yeah. I remember that one.

Oh, yeah, yeah. I remember that one.

95, wow. I'm so dumb for having this problem?

95, wow. I'm so dumb for having this problem?

Oh, for avoiding it?

Oh, for avoiding it?

Right.

Right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I can only imagine how... incredibly terrifying and overwhelming those thoughts and perceptions were. Yeah, they were really terrifying. Yeah.

I can only imagine how... incredibly terrifying and overwhelming those thoughts and perceptions were. Yeah, they were really terrifying. Yeah.

I have a question for you, Rhonda, and also for you, Werner. A lot of people, it's my perception that most therapists just want one simple thing to do. And so for a phobia, it would be, you know, exposure plus cheerleading, assuming the therapist is brave or, you know, vague talk about childhood and no exposure if the therapist isn't brave.

I have a question for you, Rhonda, and also for you, Werner. A lot of people, it's my perception that most therapists just want one simple thing to do. And so for a phobia, it would be, you know, exposure plus cheerleading, assuming the therapist is brave or, you know, vague talk about childhood and no exposure if the therapist isn't brave.

And if you're a full fee patient and want to talk for a long time without anything changing. Yeah. But a good therapy involves mastering many skills that come together at the same time. And certainly exposure is a part of the treatment of any form of anxiety. obviously including phobias.

And if you're a full fee patient and want to talk for a long time without anything changing. Yeah. But a good therapy involves mastering many skills that come together at the same time. And certainly exposure is a part of the treatment of any form of anxiety. obviously including phobias.

But how important was this cognitive part identifying and challenging these negative thoughts as well as the empathy, the connection, the warmth that Werner was and is today demonstrating?

But how important was this cognitive part identifying and challenging these negative thoughts as well as the empathy, the connection, the warmth that Werner was and is today demonstrating?