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Dr. David Fajgenbaum

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1737 total appearances

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The Shawn Ryan Show
#240 Dr. David Fajgenbaum - Can AI Find Cures to Rare Diseases Using Existing Medicine?

So to start, I spent a lot of time just sort of researching online.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#240 Dr. David Fajgenbaum - Can AI Find Cures to Rare Diseases Using Existing Medicine?

Like, are there any case reports of doctors trying different things?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#240 Dr. David Fajgenbaum - Can AI Find Cures to Rare Diseases Using Existing Medicine?

Like it happened in Japan.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#240 Dr. David Fajgenbaum - Can AI Find Cures to Rare Diseases Using Existing Medicine?

There was a doctor that was trying these different drugs.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#240 Dr. David Fajgenbaum - Can AI Find Cures to Rare Diseases Using Existing Medicine?

And so

The Shawn Ryan Show
#240 Dr. David Fajgenbaum - Can AI Find Cures to Rare Diseases Using Existing Medicine?

Then when I relapsed and had my fifth deadly flare, I actually started trying those drugs that had been used in other parts of the world.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#240 Dr. David Fajgenbaum - Can AI Find Cures to Rare Diseases Using Existing Medicine?

I asked my doctors, you know, would you prescribe this drug?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#240 Dr. David Fajgenbaum - Can AI Find Cures to Rare Diseases Using Existing Medicine?

It had been used in Japan.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#240 Dr. David Fajgenbaum - Can AI Find Cures to Rare Diseases Using Existing Medicine?

And we tried it and it didn't work at all.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#240 Dr. David Fajgenbaum - Can AI Find Cures to Rare Diseases Using Existing Medicine?

And I said, well, can you try this other drug?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#240 Dr. David Fajgenbaum - Can AI Find Cures to Rare Diseases Using Existing Medicine?

It was used for a disease like Castleman's.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#240 Dr. David Fajgenbaum - Can AI Find Cures to Rare Diseases Using Existing Medicine?

And that drug kind of worked, but I just relapsed right through it.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#240 Dr. David Fajgenbaum - Can AI Find Cures to Rare Diseases Using Existing Medicine?

I ended up back in the ICU.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#240 Dr. David Fajgenbaum - Can AI Find Cures to Rare Diseases Using Existing Medicine?

And I felt so disappointed because I had spent that year like thinking about what could be tried and we tried these two drugs.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#240 Dr. David Fajgenbaum - Can AI Find Cures to Rare Diseases Using Existing Medicine?

But the third thing I had done was that I started storing my blood samples every couple of weeks in the freezer at a lab at UPenn because my belief was if I relapse, and I thought I probably would, that I needed to get those blood samples so I could figure out what was going wrong so that way I could target it.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#240 Dr. David Fajgenbaum - Can AI Find Cures to Rare Diseases Using Existing Medicine?

I needed to get like basically some evidence to figure out what to go after.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#240 Dr. David Fajgenbaum - Can AI Find Cures to Rare Diseases Using Existing Medicine?

And so thankfully I survived that fifth episode again, again with the seven chemotherapies.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#240 Dr. David Fajgenbaum - Can AI Find Cures to Rare Diseases Using Existing Medicine?

And when I got out of the hospital, and actually even while I was still in the hospital, I turned to my sisters and to Caitlin and it was like, let's get all the samples we can.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#240 Dr. David Fajgenbaum - Can AI Find Cures to Rare Diseases Using Existing Medicine?

All those samples that are in freezers, the lymph nodes that are here and there, get them all to Philly.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#240 Dr. David Fajgenbaum - Can AI Find Cures to Rare Diseases Using Existing Medicine?

I'm basically gonna go to the lab and I'm not gonna leave until I figure something out.