Dr. David Rosmarin
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first heard May 2025
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The Mel Robbins Podcast · The Secret to Stopping Anxiety & Fear (That Actually Works) · 26 May 2025
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Yeah. And it could have been at a certain point, you shouldn't have gone off of it. You should have stayed on it and you needed it in order to function.
No. I'll tell you the way I think about it. Anxiety occurs on a scale of zero to 10. But really there's no zeros because no one has zero anxiety and there's no 10 because that would be literally catastrophic. So we're left with one to nine.
One, two, three is low. Four, five, six is medium. Seven, eight, nine is high. If you're into seven or eight and a nine, you probably need something professional to take it down to a mid-range.
Yeah, if you can't sleep because of your anxiety, that's a dysfunctional issue. That's something that has to be addressed.
Four, five, six. So that now depends. Some people can function actually reasonably well at a four, five, and a six. Six may be less likely, but a four and a five for sure.
It depends on what's going on. Are they an emergency room doctor? Are they, you know, going through med school? Are they going through a breakup? Are they starting a new, they have a new baby? You know, then okay. Like people have periods of time where they might ramp up and that actually might enhance their performance. It might enhance their connection.
100%.
Well, you know, that is important. The situational aspect is very important. But how you are sort of engaging in your anxiety. Like I said, the four, five, and six, are you able to use that level of anxiety in a constructive, positive way?
I don't know. I think a lot of people might be like, hey, I'm building, I'm an entrepreneur. They're starting a new business. They're having a battle of a time. They're feeling stressed out, might've gained a couple pounds. And they know that they're at a four or five and a six, but they're like, but I'm going to get through this.
So that often we see that as the goal. I'm not sure I do. I think that if, firstly, with medication, clinicians often overpromise and they say, I'm going to get your anxiety down to a one and it's going to stay there. I'm not sure that's even helpful.
Correct.
Validate, validate, validate. There's a reason why they don't want to go to the sleepover. And even if it doesn't make sense to you, it makes sense to their anxiety. You have to delve into that anxiety with them and allow them to explore it. The more you say, oh, there's no reason to be upset, the more they're just going to think that their anxiety is a problem.
They might not even be conscious of what they're afraid of. But if you just ask them, why wouldn't you want to go to a sleepover? Not judging, just asking.
Yeah, that would be upsetting.
I understand then why you wouldn't want to have a sleepover.
Yeah. Well, that's the comfort thing. By the way, the kid just changed the topic. Now we're talking about comfort as opposed to anxiety. So I would probably double back and say like, well, what about that Mrs. So-and-so would have to call you up and you'd have to pick me up and be a whole thing. What about it? Would people be talking about it the next day? Would it be a social thing?
Would it be, are you more embarrassed about the parents thinking about you, about your friend? Would you feel worse about yourself? And just to explore it.
But when we unpack it, we actually learn who the kid is. If you snuff out the anxiety, you'll never know what's really going on.
Women have about twice as much clinical anxiety as men. Why? They tend to be a lot harder on themselves and judge themselves for being anxious and don't really allow themselves to experience those feelings. If a guy's feeling anxious, like, well, something's wrong. And like, there must be a reason. Yeah. No, you know, women are more like something's wrong with me.
No, I think men will often snuff out the anxiety a little bit more and be a little more disconnected from it. We see higher instances of substance and alcohol abuse. And that's usually, you know, often happens when people are feeling anxious and don't want to talk about it, don't want to think about it.
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