Dr. David Rosmarin

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The Mel Robbins Podcast · The Secret to Stopping Anxiety & Fear (That Actually Works) · 26 May 2025 podcast
We're just identifying. Just go dig. What's at the root of it? What are you really afraid will happen? If your car was parked on the seventh thing and it starts to roll, whatever it is.
It's usually one thing.
Being alone. People are afraid of being alone, being abandoned. Wow. I know when I've hit that, when I'm asking a patient live, firstly, when they start to tear up and I can feel the emotion in the moment, then I know I'm getting something. And often when they hit the alone elevator, like when we hit that floor on the elevator, then we're getting somewhere.
That's the core, usually.
You embrace it and use it to connect to other people. Find ways to build your resilience with it. And then with regards to letting go, I think that's letting go control that you can actually control it. Okay. But you don't let go of that fear. It's going to be there and that's okay.
Well, first again, if they're at a 7, 8, or 9, it's probably interfering with their lives in a clinical way, in which case you're probably looking at a professional process. Now this, whether it's the book or whether it's a workshop or whatever it is, people could probably benefit from that as well.
But I wouldn't want someone who's coming in with a 7, 8, or 9 where it's actually clinical, it's interfering with their lives, to just use a self-help approach. I'd probably want them to get some sort of therapy and or meds.
Yeah.
I don't blame you. You've been taught since birth that something's wrong with you if you're anxious. You've been taught by your parents. You've been taught that by your teachers. You've been taught that by society. You've seen medication advertisements on television.
For years and years and years, that message was pounded into you that something is clinically, emotionally, maybe even morally wrong with you. This is a failing of your life if you feel anxious. So yeah, I don't blame you for... Having heard this for the first time for barely an hour, that it's not penetrating, yeah, I don't blame you one bit. Wow.
Oh my God, so many ways. You know, I didn't always talk about it. When I got my job at Harvard Medical School, it's not the kind of thing that you speak about, right? Like you're a professor and you stand up and you have your slides and you have your figures and your facts and your data and you don't have your personal experience. Like, no, that would be like beneath everything.
You know, the dignity of someone within the academy. And then, like I said, over COVID, it really changed for me because aside for the fact that I was just dealing with my own anxiety, I actually saw in my data that the patients who were coming to our programs who had clinical anxiety and got treatment before March 2020 died. did better throughout the rest of the pandemic.
They did not have an increase, a substantial increase in anxiety. And then I was like, hold on, I'm going about this wrong. I'm treating all anxiety like it's clinical. That's not true. David, you have anxiety too. Embrace it. I started to talk to my wife about it, have some real conversations about my fear of failure.
She did something like, well, she actually didn't say that. She didn't even say, I told you so. She didn't have to. What did she say? Yeah, she did say, I know, but she held me through it and it made us closer. It created more emotional depth in our connection.
I love what you said about bracing for battle. That's exactly what we do.
We think of it as the enemy right away, and it's not.
What are you going to call it? What's the language for you?
Don't judge yourself for feeling anxious. Use it. It's a human emotion. Like any other human emotion, it can be used constructively in your life.
It's such an honor to be here. Like I said, to meet you is super exciting. A little anxiety provoking, but in a good way. Like a two? Like a two?
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