Dr. Drew Pinsky

Oh, here we are back.

Sorry about that.

They cut to me.

I wasn't prepared for it.

We're looking for Jeremy at the quartering right now.

uh i think he knows to be here but we should have him any minute uh you can also find him on x at the quartering as well as his coffee brand at coffee brand company and then viva fry is going to swing by perhaps we can grab him a little early in while we're waiting for uh jeremy though i'm happy to take your questions so if you head over to the restream or over to the rumble rants i can look for you guys there and answer any questions you might have

A lot to talk about today.

I mean, the Quartering has been reporting on things like what Howard Stern was saying about being woke, about Barry Weiss at CBS, DiCaprio and his new film.

There's a lot to talk about.

And the fact that Disney seems to be abandoning some of its DEI in terms of its casting practices.

A lot to go over.

And, of course, Viva is going to talk about Letitia James and more to come on the Schiff mortgage fraud.

All of that after this.

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A psychopath started this.

He was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction, fentanyl and heroin.

Ridiculous.

I'm a doctor for f***'s sake.

Where the hell do you think I learned that?

I'm just saying, you go to treatment before you kill people.

I am a clinician.

I observe things about these chemicals.

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we are back as i said jeremy from the quartering should be here any second in the meantime i'm looking at your guys questions on the restream if you have any questions there um i see some ymh fan dan boyd uh i don't know what the what you're talking about there about the bed but uh i'm interested um also in addition uh we're going to talk about with viva amongst other things the fact that

Alex Jones, apparently, the Supreme Court passed on his attempt for an appeal at the over-a-billion-dollar penalty he's due to pay the families at Sandy Hook, which is hard to understand how that's even possible.

There's the headline for that, the $1.4 billion Sandy Hook judgment.

It's just an extraordinary judgment.

I don't understand why there wouldn't be an appeal for that, but okay.

I'd love to hear what the reasoning is with that.

Let's see.

I'm asking you guys on the rants if there's questions there.

I wonder if I should go on X as well and see if anybody's come up with that.

I'm here in New York City today.

I'll be traveling this evening.

And I was just talking with Adam about various...

issues uh one of the things we were talking about was you know there's been so many demonstrations in new york around the issue of palestine and one of the one of the constant refrains here in the city was israel out of palestine and my question to all the demonstrators now is okay israel is out of palestine or are we done here is that are we good is um

You know, are we going to have to have more demonstrations about something?

Yes, war is horrible.

I am not saying anything good about anything in relation to this catastrophe.

War is horrible.

But in terms of the request of the demonstrators, I was always happy to see when demonstrations have a purpose.

So often the demonstrations are just sort of like the ones coming up next weekend.

No kings.

Okay, gotcha, no kings, done.

Okay, so what do you want?

Why are you going on the streets?

What do we hope to accomplish here?

Which is so different than demonstrations that went on in the 60s, which I think people have this romantic attachment to what was going on during that period of history, where there was very specific demands out of Vietnam now.

Civil rights now, an amendment now, yes.

And those things happen and the demonstrations stopped.

And they were very, very specific and they were very, very effective.

Going out and saying, I want a seat at the table or I'm frustrated or I have a grievance or no kings or I don't like that guy.

That is not going to be very helpful.

It's not going to be very useful.

And I don't understand why people do that, why they would go out and waste their time.

Why not organize differently and to get some political activism going?

Let's see.

Where is Jeremy?

Somebody says he's hustled off his show a while ago.

Did not talk about coming on our show.

Well, maybe he forgot.

And Raisky USA says maybe they're professional protesters, which does seem to be a major piece of what goes on out there these days, which is people are paid to go press.

In fact, I've heard that there's actually a union of protesters.

So that's how structured this whole phenomenon of professional protesters has become, which, of course, begs the issue.

who is funding these things and how do we allow these things to kind of keep going.

Thank you, Kari.

It's interesting.

I was on Greg Gutsfeld's show a couple, maybe a month or so ago.

It was two months ago.

And Jamie Lisso was sitting next to me and we were talking about the NGOs and how they are laundering money and

you know, finding ways to pay for these things like demonstrations or whatnot.

And he's so funny.

Jamie goes, you know, I don't know.

I'd never heard those.

And I never heard of NGO before, except in that song.

B-I-N-G-O.

And I just thought, oh my God, he just nailed that.

So, and it was eye-opening.

Here's somebody who wants to comment on Letitia James.

Mental illness has something to do with it?

Not so sure.

I do think there is a weakness afoot and people are not thinking about this tendency to vilify other people and to have grievances and to be narcissistically preoccupied.

Here's an interesting topic.

Hang on a second.

Let me just see what your questions are here.

Justice Letitia actually committed crimes that can be proven beyond reasonable doubt, though the documentation alone, not through elaborate interpretation, which like good legal representation.

Look, I'm sure that people do a lot of funny business with their loan documents.

I'm sure of it.

Or just say simply, I didn't know I was going to use that as a second home.

They could just change their mind after they, and there could be some

You know, they could be some premeditated quality and they may have done it themselves to benefit themselves.

But I don't know how you much like when President Trump was found guilty of having underrepresented the value of his home.

I mean, people do that all the time in loans.

I don't know that that makes it right.

It's just that people do these things.

So there's film footage of it.

Oh, perfect.

footage available.

It's to see that Antifa is renting storage units where the fanciest sticks and stones are kept.

Jeremy's wife is in the ER.

He posted about it.

So I guess Jeremy has a good reason not to be here right now.

Let me give, I want to mention, we're at Viva Fry coming in here a few minutes.

I want to mention something about

sort of Trump derangement syndrome generally.

I'm sure the door is going to open up.

I can't come to the door, sorry.

But that in fact, think about this.

I mentioned narcissism when it comes to people's grievances.

Think about how grandiose you have to be.

Now, this is a weird and interesting kind of thought.

To insist that you know

best what qualities, say, a president of the United States should have.

What are the personality qualities that that person should have?

And what are the characteristics that make for the best possible president of the United States in a particular moment of history?

I am not skilled enough to understand that.

And I put in evidence the fact that there are many instances of presidents of the United States with significant character pathology or even serious mental illness who were amongst our best presidents.

So let me just give you a couple examples while I just quickly look at your questions and things.

I hope Jeremy's wife is okay.

Okay, so for instance, let me just paint a couple pictures of some mental status profiles of some president of the United States.

This one president during his young adult life became so depressed on two occasions, he had to be under constant 24 hour watch by his friends and all sharp objects had to be kept away from him.

Later in life, he had great obsessions.

He began obsessing that he had syphilis and was preoccupied.

He maybe had a little bipolar disorder where he could kind of work long hours and not sleep, but his depressions were the prominent feature.

And even during his period in the White House,

There's a story of him walking down Pennsylvania Avenue with pulling his son in a red wagon, essentially, and his son flipping out of the red wagon at the White House, pretty much like near the White House, and still dragging the upside down wagon all the way to Capitol Hill.

He was so lost in his fugue of depression.

Should that guy be president of the United States?

Is that individual somebody we should contemplate as a good president?

And, oh, by the way, he was very rigid in his thinking, so rigid that he precipitated a war.

Now, you could say principled, but also rigid.

So if you thought that mood disturbance was sufficient to disqualify him from the presidency, you just disqualified Abraham Lincoln.

How about an intermittent severe alcoholic?

Severe, so severe that he would disappear for days and days at a time.

And by the way, his character pathology was stuffed that he had long periods of time

where he couldn't function.

He really had difficulty.

He ended up almost homeless, essentially.

But he ended up becoming sort of a farmhand and working for his father-in-law in a leather factory, essentially like a tanning factory.

I'll get to Viva in just a second.

I just want to finish my case here.

And even during presidency, there were some reports about periods where he got severely drunk.

They had to keep alcohol away from him.

He knew he couldn't start drinking, but occasionally he did.

And he was actually victim and manipulated by...

a group of essentially currency frauds.

Another great leader and president we would have disqualified, Ulysses S. Grant.

And finally, a narcissist who was extremely compartmentalized in his thinking.

When his first wife died and his mother, both whom he loved dearly, he never spoke about them again.

He was very grandiose, extremely grandiose.

When he was working for the police force in New York City, he would go out at night and beat up criminals himself.

He would pace around in the middle of the night and drop by bars and organizations where and sort of institutions where criminals were known to hang out.

He didn't sleep because he was manic and he was grandiose and he was highly narcissistic.

And when he was Secretary of the Navy, he was so inflated with his own sense of self-importance, he essentially, he was Assistant Secretary of the Navy.

When the Secretary of Navy went on vacation, he ordered five destroyers, just ordered them up because, hey, he's always right.

And there are many more stories about that.

another president we could have disqualified named Teddy Roosevelt.

So just think about how we assess people for the presidency.

It's a very difficult thing to do.

And yes, Grant did have an alcohol problem, but he was able to keep it under more control than people realize.

And somebody says Abraham Lincoln was depressed because he understood about the Jesuits.

Abraham Lincoln's depression, aside from being endogenous depression, and he's had a very depressed personality style,

This is a little known fact.

Viva, listen carefully to this one before I go to you.

He became obsessed after seeing a prostitute down by the river that he had syphilis.

He cut off his marriage, his engagement the first time to marry Todd Lincoln.

No one knows why he cut it off.

I think I know why because of this obsession.

He developed a relationship with a Springfield doctor, a doctor with whom he maintained a relationship through at least the first two to three years of his presidency, who put him on mercury.

And he said, Mr. Lincoln, you do not have syphilis, but just so you're so obsessed, you're so depressed about this, I'm going to put you on some mercury so you don't even worry about it.

Because the mercury would take care of the syphilis even if you had it.

He stayed on the syphilis for four years.

Main side effect of mercury, depression.

So some of his more severe, few depressions came later when he was president.

So anyway, so there we go.

Thank you very much, everybody, for bearing with me while I tell these stories.

We'll bring in the one and only Viva Fry in here.

Viva, welcome.

Thank you for being available to jump in.

The quartering was, I guess his wife's in the ER or something.

Yes, likewise.

So...

Starting with you, sir.

Thank you for being here.

Give them the particulars.

Where can they find you?

Where they can see your show?

Where can they see your two shows?

You talking about the video of you going crazy with the fish?

Very quickly, I want to respond to something on the restreams here.

Somebody's saying that George Washington was given a fatal dose of mercury for swallowing difficulties.

No, that did not kill him.

The doctors found another way to kill him.

In fact, it was, what's his name, the sign of the Declaration of Independence.

Blank on that doctor's name.

They bled him to death.

He was incongestive.

He had pneumonia and a little congestive heart failure.

And they used to do bloodletting back then.

And they bloodlet him.

They were so anxious.

It's George Washington that they depleted him.

They essentially exsanguinated him doing the, quote, bloodletting of the day.

And that's how doctors killed George Washington.

So, in any event.

So now we're going to talk about lawyers and doctors and our misadventures.

Letitia James, my friend, what are we going to do with all that?

I was saying beforehand, before you joined us, that I'm sure people do funny business on these loan applications all the time.

But I don't know, if you get caught, isn't no one above the law?

And what do you, I worry about your profession.

I'm going to bring this up for you too.

Not to worry about you necessarily, but I worry about the profession generally.

That it feels to me like sometimes lawyers, particularly criminal lawyers, like lose their bearing.

like it's just they just sort of see everything relativistically and it's like whoever's ox is being gored is all that's important to them they they sort of lose any kind of compass a moral compass do you think that's going on here

But Viva, if indeed that's true and if they kind of lose their way, why isn't the sort of the bodies that, you know, the bar organizations and whatnot that are designed to supervise attorneys, why aren't they doing a better job?

You know, in physicians, we are supervised.

We are just, we are scrutinized constantly.

Why doesn't the legal profession do that to itself?

Lawyers... You're not making a great case for the bar doing a good job of policing lawyers.

You're saying it's a crony system that's designed to protect people.

It just sounds horrible.

It sounds the opposite of how physicians are policed.

The opposite.

I mean, we are... Oh, my God.

And if they want to- Tom Renz got railed too for it seems like nothing.

I've observed what you're saying.

What about Adam Schiff?

Is he going to have the same problem?

What about just the problem of lawfare generally?

Don't we need to stop this nonsense?

Or do you feel you have to, are there prime movers in this whole phenomenon?

Do they need to be taken out?

No, I know.

I'm blanking on Christina Bob.

I mean, her story is mind-boggling.

There's her, her book is called Defiant.

The stuff she chronicles is just, is mind blowing.

So, and she was, I think she was working on the defense of the Mar-a-Lago case.

But, but let me ask you this.

I'm gonna switch gears a little bit and ask, I'm very curious what your thoughts are in this new attempt, this new appeal that was denied by Alex Jones for his, I guess, $1.4, $1.6 billion case.

fine it's called billion dollars of fine as you have to i hard even understand because it doesn't i can't imagine how it gets paid but uh what are your thoughts on all that

This was this.

Apparently, this was the Supreme Court who refused to hear the case.

If I get it right.

Emily, text me if that if I got that right.

But here it is.

Supreme Court rejects Donald Trump's appeal.

And what bothers me the most about this is, according to Joe Rogan, when he was saying this stuff about Sandy Hook, he was in a bipolar manic state.

He had serious mental illness.

I think there may have been something else was going on, too.

Maybe substances, something like that.

And you're going to hold somebody accountable for something they say when they're in an altered state?

That's shocking to me.

Caleb, you have a question about Alex Jones?

We're going to take a little break.

When I come back, I want to talk about this Tom Holman, what seems like a hoax to me.

But I also want to talk about the shutting down phenomenon.

And I'm writing down a word here that I hate, deplatforming.

It's a brand new word.

It was not uttered until about five years ago.

And I want to talk a little bit about that and the assault on free speech.

So Viva Frye is with us.

Follow him on X. Be right back after this.

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And thank you, Drew.

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Where is he?

Dr. Drew.

Dr. Drew.

That little clip there of Donald Trump looking for me over at the White House reminds me of him with all those European leaders and Middle East leaders going, where's Greece?

Where is Greece?

He gets up there and he just starts pointing at people and acknowledging this is what he does.

People cry here with us.

Hysterical.

Or senator.

Yeah, that was quite an event there, I got to say.

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Well, did you see that Trump went nuts just before we came on about that?

He was in a press conference.

He was in a press conference.

He goes, hey, John, what he goes, hey, ABC, I'm never talking to you.

I'm not talking to you.

Not after the way you treated the Vice President of the United States.

That's it.

I'm not just sitting.

No, ABC out.

Sorry.

Isn't that interesting?

So I thought...

Wow.

We have some breaking news on the Letitia James front.

Her niece is living in the home at the center of the fraud indictment, is actually herself a fugitive from the law with a multi-year rap sheet.

So good times.

Well, to distort and paraphrase Mark Twain a little bit, what is it?

Liars, damn liars, and then lawyers.

I think it was liars, damn liars.

And then journalists, I think, is what he said.

But I'm going to co-opt it to lawyers.

But back to shutting things down and this word de-platforming, which is a word that just makes my skin crawl.

When people first started saying that to me, I was like, you mean you're talking about having a conversation in public that is platforming somebody?

When I used to do my HLN CNN shows, we would interview anybody interesting.

I interviewed Nazis.

I interviewed supremacists.

I let them expose themselves for what they were.

I didn't worry about platforming them.

I wanted to expose them for their shittiness.

Or if somebody has something...

Somewhat interesting to say and somewhat controversial.

I want to hear about it.

You don't have to listen.

It's up to you to do so.

But this idea of you are criticized or in any way, let's put it this way, that any other person feels they have the right to tell another person who they can speak to, that is disgusting.

It is disgusting.

Or what they can speak about.

Disgusting.

Am I getting something wrong?

Yes.

But that wasn't what I was talking about.

I was talking about, I saw that run around yesterday.

No, I got in trouble for having a conversation with Jay Bhattacharya and for having a conversation with RFK Jr.

and for having a conversation with Peter McCullough.

That's how I got in trouble.

Yes.

That's why when Jay told me he was going to be the head of the NIH, I was like, oh my God, this is a Shakespearean moment.

And Caleb, is that Wi-Fi issue happening out here or is that on Viva's end?

Anything I need to fix, I'll try to fix it.

But okay.

Yeah, I...

It's what has rendered me a free speech absolutist.

How a gang of skinheads changed the course of the Oprah Winfrey show.

Why?

Because she interviewed some of them?

Yeah.

The term, it's a new term.

People use it as though this is something that's just a routine piece of the English language.

They invented it during COVID.

It was an invented term.

And it was invented as a cudgel.

And it needs to be swept away.

You need to call people out if they use that term.

Speaking of platforming...

Go ahead.

But Drew... He's a Canadian, guys.

A Canadian saying this.

A Canadian.

Come on now.

Interesting.

He's a pretty shrewd operator.

And he's been in law enforcement a long time.

You would think he would suss these things out.

So that sounds like a reasonable sort of expectation of what's going on.

Speaking of platforming, CBS is platforming a renegade, Barry Weiss.

How dare they?

Yeah, she to me, I mean, she has a point of view, which fine.

But she seems like a real serious, very thoughtful.

And she lets you know when she's giving you her opinions.

And she seems like somebody that is interested in the truth, which I would argue is very different than the rest of the press corps out there.

They seem to have no interest in the truth.

So I don't know.

I don't know.

she she always struck me as just a very very smart analytical person and the fact that they're having a freak out over and by the way she was put back to the deplatforming conversation she was part of the controversy within the new york times which in retrospect she was right which was that free speech was being was being suppressed uh and that there was this group at the new york times

the social justice warriors that thought that speech needed to be suppressed.

Those people should be held on account.

I mean, that is a despicable position to take.

But by putting that analogy together, you show how stupid they are.

How silly they're being.

I get it.

I think that's a viable observation.

And then finally, there is this phenomenon going around now where I don't know how to describe it, except that words that refer to behaviors or organizations that are, I would say, well-established, like the word woke.

Howard Stern says, what does that even mean?

What is woke?

think I know what it means.

Or you have people saying that there's no such thing as Antifa.

It's a fantasy.

Who invented this?

And I've met people that say they're part of Antifa.

And you need to go no further than downtown Los Angeles.

There's tents where they have stuff all over their tents, you know, sort of with all the imagery of Antifa, who funds them and who organizes them.

And whether they have a central authority sort of doesn't matter to me.

People understand what this is.

what is going on here with people's inability to sort of understand language and understand things in the world?

To this point, I was asking...

I was asking somebody this today that this idea that it's outrageous that a president call in federal troops to protect federal property is the most bizarre notion to me that people don't understand that the president takes a solemn oath to protect all federal properties.

Abraham Lincoln,

sent troops down to fort sumter to reprovision the fort he announced he had to do it he's he put the logic of his obligation down on paper and said it was a solemn oath i must do this and he was fired on by the south and that triggered the civil war but he still had to do it in his mind

Or before you came on, I was saying maybe his thinking was a little bit rigid and he triggered the Civil War.

But the same thing is true of the federal buildings in other states.

The president has to protect them.

Why is that a controversial issue?

I'm just thinking about the anti-fascist call generally.

Stalin invented that, everybody.

Stalin invented the notion that if you disagree with me, you're a fascist.

That was Stalin.

So good times, everyone.

Do you know what the term woke means?

It's called toxic.

Toxic empathy.

Toxic empathy.

I am really concerned about this notion that if you're not...

agreeing with the things I agree with.

You don't care about other people.

I had a long conversation with somebody today about vaccines.

I'm like, look, if somebody decides not to take, let's take an extreme example, like a measles vaccine for their kid.

Well, first of all, that person, I've never met a person that didn't care about other people.

I'd never met that person.

Everybody wants everybody to thrive.

And let's say that person elects not to put that vaccine in their child.

They're afraid of it, whatever.

Everyone else, all the other children that they are around are vaccinated.

They would make sure of that.

And if the child got measles, they would isolate that child from everybody else.

They would not send that child out to harm other kids.

There is just a difference amongst people about how we believe people need to get to thrive.

Nobody doesn't want everybody to thrive.

At least nobody I have interacted with.

Everybody wants people to do well and thrive.

It's just we have differing ideas about how to get there.

You're around too many lawyers.

So Rousseau, everyone, everyone, you know, everyone has to be forced to be free.

Man, everyone in chains has to be forced to be free.

So it's intolerance in the name of tolerance.

It's a horrible impulse.

It's a character pathology.

You should wish well on everybody, and there are different ways that everyone can get there and thrive.

Look at the evidence.

What helps?

What helps the most?

That's the direction we should go, it seems to me.

It seems like the direction we've been going has not been particularly helpful for quite some time.

Look at what we did during COVID without considering the potential harms of all the interventions we did.

Ugh.

Ugh.

I think even those people who went to those extremes in their opinions about lack of vaccines would now reconsider that position, I think.

And I'm looking for people to apologize for stuff like that.

I certainly would.

I did say I got it wrong.

I thought that vaccine was going to save lives, prevent it from spreading to other people.

I was wrong.

And obviously, I was caught in the hysteria, and I apologize.

Got that one wrong.

But you don't hear any of that, and that's a shame.

Viva, we will leave it right there.

I always appreciate talking to you.

I appreciate you joining us.

I know we pulled you in a little earlier today.

I appreciate that very much.

And tell people about Viva and Barnes and your show at 3 o'clock Eastern on Rumble.

Where else?

It is.

It is.

It is.

I mean, again, words like freedom and courage were not words I expect to be frequenting at my age.

It never occurred to me, but here we are.

They're important words, and we all should be paying attention.

Freedom has to be fought for.

I've always heard that.

I just never saw it, and now I'm seeing it.

So here we go.

Viva, thank you so much.

We'll see you soon.

All right.

And coming up for us, I believe we have Del Bigtree tomorrow.

He's got a new movie, an inconvenient, what's it called?

Inconvenient experiment or observation or something.

I'm hearing it won a film contest.

I hear it's great.

And then we have the DWC guys with Gary Brekka on Thursday.

I'll be with the Maha group tomorrow at one o'clock Pacific.

Caleb, is that correct?

Yes.

Caleb is producing it and we will be streaming it on our platforms and all of our sites and whatnot.

It's the Maha Media Hub.

I saw Rand Paul will be there.

Last time I was on too.

He's got...

Okay, thank you guys for being here today.

Thank you for putting up with our scheduling issues.

I hope Jeremy's wife is well.

We'll get him scheduled again.

The quartering, there he is.

And I've got to run to the airport, so I'm going to wrap it up right now.

Thank you so much all for being here.

We'll see you tomorrow.

Tomorrow's Wednesday at 4 o'clock.

We have the 1 o'clock Maha thing, which I will be on, and then the 4 o'clock we'll be on with Del Bigtree.

We'll see you then.

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