Dr. Edna Lekgabe

There's a lot of tradition.

There's a lot of rituals.

I come from one of them where there's a lot of song and dance and there's a lot of keeping the woman safe and looking after her before she comes out into the world to be introduced as a mother.

In the Western world, we don't have that.

You have a baby and we're told to focus on the baby.

It's baby-centric.

We focus on the baby.

We sort of forget mom and what's happening for her.

Yeah, exactly, exactly.

Absolutely, for the rest of their lives.

So when Dana Raphael described it, she described it as a sociological phenomenon.

She said there's this thing that happens for women, their identity shifts.

Something moves, something changes in a woman.

She's not the same.

Just like the adolescent, the kid is no longer there, you're now an adult.

The kid, there's remnants of the kid, but you're still, you've become an adult.

So women are becoming something.

She described it as a sociological thing because in the 70s, they didn't scan brains.

They didn't have a look at what else was going on.

But now we know more, right?