Dr. Edward Hallowell

you got a connection thing going and it's so great to see it happen because it's what people need.

And you just see them brighten up like a Christmas tree.

I mean, it's just, it's a wonderful thing and, and it can be, you can start it truly anywhere.

Zoom, I mean, Zoom has been a godsend.

And you with your podcast, I mean, you are doing a tremendous service.

You have a big following.

That's a huge service.

People don't realize, I mean, you have regular listeners and that's a big deal.

And they don't understand by listening to you, by tuning in regularly, they literally are extending their life.

I mean, that is a proven fact.

Reducing social isolation extends life.

And what you're doing with your podcast is a wonderful way of reducing social isolation, you know?

So yes, it is ironic that we have unintentionally conspired to create circumstances where one of the things we need absolutely most is really hard to get, but it is not impossible to get.

And that's what I'm saying.

Use your imagination, but reach out, you know, another, another, you know,

reach out to someone you're on the outs with.

Forgiveness is a wonderful tool for connecting.

And, you know, forgiveness is a gift you give to yourself.

Thank you, Mike.

I really appreciate your having me on.