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Dr. Ellen Langer

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
3105 total appearances

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Huberman Lab
Using Your Mind to Control Your Physical Health & Longevity | Dr. Ellen Langer

If, on the other hand, I'm noticing all the new things about you, then I'm being fed and my neurons are firing and I'm not going to burn out. We have lots of simple things. When I was talking to Atul Gawande, he did some wonderful work on checklists. In surgery, for instance, if they have a checklist, there are many fewer errors that are made.

Huberman Lab
Using Your Mind to Control Your Physical Health & Longevity | Dr. Ellen Langer

If, on the other hand, I'm noticing all the new things about you, then I'm being fed and my neurons are firing and I'm not going to burn out. We have lots of simple things. When I was talking to Atul Gawande, he did some wonderful work on checklists. In surgery, for instance, if they have a checklist, there are many fewer errors that are made.

Huberman Lab
Using Your Mind to Control Your Physical Health & Longevity | Dr. Ellen Langer

But he had just sent the last draft to the publisher, so he wasn't going to be able to change it. I said, we need a mindful checklist. What is a mindful checklist? And you remember when we used to travel and you come back to the States and you had to fill out these forms and you're bringing any livestock. Now, do you have any fruits and vegetables?

Huberman Lab
Using Your Mind to Control Your Physical Health & Longevity | Dr. Ellen Langer

But he had just sent the last draft to the publisher, so he wasn't going to be able to change it. I said, we need a mindful checklist. What is a mindful checklist? And you remember when we used to travel and you come back to the States and you had to fill out these forms and you're bringing any livestock. Now, do you have any fruits and vegetables?

Huberman Lab
Using Your Mind to Control Your Physical Health & Longevity | Dr. Ellen Langer

But he had just sent the last draft to the publisher, so he wasn't going to be able to change it. I said, we need a mindful checklist. What is a mindful checklist? And you remember when we used to travel and you come back to the States and you had to fill out these forms and you're bringing any livestock. Now, do you have any fruits and vegetables?

Huberman Lab
Using Your Mind to Control Your Physical Health & Longevity | Dr. Ellen Langer

You answer three of these and you don't answer any of the other. You just know it's no, no, no, all the way down the list. So a checklist and even the checklist in aviation, you know, the pilot, co-pilot flaps up. throttle open, anti-ice off, it becomes mindless.

Huberman Lab
Using Your Mind to Control Your Physical Health & Longevity | Dr. Ellen Langer

You answer three of these and you don't answer any of the other. You just know it's no, no, no, all the way down the list. So a checklist and even the checklist in aviation, you know, the pilot, co-pilot flaps up. throttle open, anti-ice off, it becomes mindless.

Huberman Lab
Using Your Mind to Control Your Physical Health & Longevity | Dr. Ellen Langer

You answer three of these and you don't answer any of the other. You just know it's no, no, no, all the way down the list. So a checklist and even the checklist in aviation, you know, the pilot, co-pilot flaps up. throttle open, anti-ice off, it becomes mindless.

Huberman Lab
Using Your Mind to Control Your Physical Health & Longevity | Dr. Ellen Langer

So remember the plane that was going from, the Air Florida flight, going from Florida to Washington, D.C., so that's one warm climate to another warm climate. And they go flaps up, throttle open, anti-ice off, but there was snow in D.C., an unusual event. The plane crashed because the de-icer was turned off and people were killed.

Huberman Lab
Using Your Mind to Control Your Physical Health & Longevity | Dr. Ellen Langer

So remember the plane that was going from, the Air Florida flight, going from Florida to Washington, D.C., so that's one warm climate to another warm climate. And they go flaps up, throttle open, anti-ice off, but there was snow in D.C., an unusual event. The plane crashed because the de-icer was turned off and people were killed.

Huberman Lab
Using Your Mind to Control Your Physical Health & Longevity | Dr. Ellen Langer

So remember the plane that was going from, the Air Florida flight, going from Florida to Washington, D.C., so that's one warm climate to another warm climate. And they go flaps up, throttle open, anti-ice off, but there was snow in D.C., an unusual event. The plane crashed because the de-icer was turned off and people were killed.

Huberman Lab
Using Your Mind to Control Your Physical Health & Longevity | Dr. Ellen Langer

And the point of it is that a checklist, well, better than no checklist, there's a better than better way. We talk a lot about that in The Mindful Body, that the checklist needs to be a mindful checklist. So not is Andrew in bed? Yes. What position is Andrew in in the bed? Right. You know, does Andrew have two eyes? But, you know, how much liquid can you see? So not yes, no, going beyond yes, no.

Huberman Lab
Using Your Mind to Control Your Physical Health & Longevity | Dr. Ellen Langer

And the point of it is that a checklist, well, better than no checklist, there's a better than better way. We talk a lot about that in The Mindful Body, that the checklist needs to be a mindful checklist. So not is Andrew in bed? Yes. What position is Andrew in in the bed? Right. You know, does Andrew have two eyes? But, you know, how much liquid can you see? So not yes, no, going beyond yes, no.

Huberman Lab
Using Your Mind to Control Your Physical Health & Longevity | Dr. Ellen Langer

And the point of it is that a checklist, well, better than no checklist, there's a better than better way. We talk a lot about that in The Mindful Body, that the checklist needs to be a mindful checklist. So not is Andrew in bed? Yes. What position is Andrew in in the bed? Right. You know, does Andrew have two eyes? But, you know, how much liquid can you see? So not yes, no, going beyond yes, no.

Huberman Lab
Using Your Mind to Control Your Physical Health & Longevity | Dr. Ellen Langer

Where you can only answer the question if you're actually looking at the person. So then you're noticing. Now, the wonderful thing about that is if I'm noticing you and being mindful about aspects of you, you feel noticed. And that's the way you feel cared for. And then the relationship grows.

Huberman Lab
Using Your Mind to Control Your Physical Health & Longevity | Dr. Ellen Langer

Where you can only answer the question if you're actually looking at the person. So then you're noticing. Now, the wonderful thing about that is if I'm noticing you and being mindful about aspects of you, you feel noticed. And that's the way you feel cared for. And then the relationship grows.

Huberman Lab
Using Your Mind to Control Your Physical Health & Longevity | Dr. Ellen Langer

Where you can only answer the question if you're actually looking at the person. So then you're noticing. Now, the wonderful thing about that is if I'm noticing you and being mindful about aspects of you, you feel noticed. And that's the way you feel cared for. And then the relationship grows.

Huberman Lab
Using Your Mind to Control Your Physical Health & Longevity | Dr. Ellen Langer

Yes, but it all follows from recognizing you don't know. So how do we get people to actually look for the changes in people? When I was talking about attention to symptom variability, and I said before, imagine you're with somebody who is, you think they're losing it. They're forgetting.

Huberman Lab
Using Your Mind to Control Your Physical Health & Longevity | Dr. Ellen Langer

Yes, but it all follows from recognizing you don't know. So how do we get people to actually look for the changes in people? When I was talking about attention to symptom variability, and I said before, imagine you're with somebody who is, you think they're losing it. They're forgetting.

Huberman Lab
Using Your Mind to Control Your Physical Health & Longevity | Dr. Ellen Langer

Yes, but it all follows from recognizing you don't know. So how do we get people to actually look for the changes in people? When I was talking about attention to symptom variability, and I said before, imagine you're with somebody who is, you think they're losing it. They're forgetting.