Dr Emily Musgrove

Josh, do you have a sense of what that purpose is there?

So a contribution to the greater good.

So we can see that there is, when we're engaged with purposefulness, it helps us keep going.

But if there's no attachment to purpose and particularly if there's no attachment to values, for example, then we can just get really overwhelmed, burnt out and kind of on this unrelenting treadmill of hard work.

And what I really love in the purpose work is the distinction between having a job, having a career or having a calling.

So a job is you go in nine to five, you do the thing, you come home.

It's kind of like a little bit of a going through the motions.

The career is where you have goals and there is some sort of pursuit and you might experience some fulfillment.

A calling is this sense of purpose that I have been called by a higher power to be on this earth, to do this thing, to make this contribution in some way.

So these are these kind of three categories.

But what feels so important about these three ways of being is that it's not about being the best in the world at something, but how you show up to the world.

So for example, you could be a crossing guard at a school.

And it might be like a go in.

It's not hugely effortful necessarily.

I go in and I'm here for like six hours a day or something, three hours a day.

But what I know is that I've been called to this because how I show up to this job is that I help these children cross the road safely and I bring a sense of joyfulness when I say good morning.

And that's my calling there.

So what does that tell you about purpose there?

Like that desire there, what does that speak to?

Yeah.