Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel

all of those things.

Now we need to study them better and we need to understand them.

But, um, but you know, people report this a lot.

There was a recent article in the wall street journal about a woman and her daughter who did this, you know, we're off ultra processed foods.

First of all, she then realized how much ultra processed foods there is everywhere.

And everyone's trying to offer her daughter something.

Um, but her daughter began to

like vegetables, which she never liked.

She stopped being a picky eater, which drives every parent crazy.

And I think this is so it's so fundamental.

And, you know, it is we have a whole system that is pushing us in the wrong direction.

If there is one good thing about the current moment, I think the message of

Get off ultra-processed foods.

Stop drinking soda.

Those messages are beginning to seep through.

And I think we are seeing, again, it's early days.

We still have a very big obesity epidemic, but we're seeing some positive changes.

And I think we need to celebrate what is happening that's good and not just be doom and gloom about things.

Cause it's, it's just like, Mark, once people knew I was doing the book, they would,

often come to me with, you know, I'm doing the following.