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The Dr. Hyman Show

6 Simple Rules for a Long, Healthy Life w/ Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel

17 Dec 2025

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Chapter 1: What is the loneliness epidemic and its impact on health?

0.031 - 5.758 Dr. Mark Hyman

Loneliness is an epidemic. Our former Surgeon General wrote a whole treatise on it. It's like smoking two packs of cigarettes a day.

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5.998 - 27.743 Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel

I read one of the books on wellness and it made me pissed off beyond belief. Part of what bothered me about a lot of these wellness books is the sort of narcissism of them. You know, it's about me living a long time. If you want to both be healthy and live a long and happy life, it's about purpose, engaging with other people and engaging your mind.

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Chapter 2: How do social relationships influence longevity?

27.723 - 37.373 Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel

The people who are talking about wellness today and longevity and pursuing it obsessively, it consumes their life. It's the total focus.

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And that's not good for the body.

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Chapter 3: What are the six simple rules for a long and healthy life?

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Ezekiel Emanuel, MD, PhD, is the Vice Provost for Global Incentives and the Diane S. Levy and Robert M. Levy University Professor at the University of Pennsylvania, as well as a leading oncologist, bioethicist and health policy expert.

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He's a key architect of the Affordable Care Act, and he authored over 350 publications and 15 books, and he advises the World Health Organization, and he frequently contributes to major media outlets on health and policy issues.

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Chapter 4: How can we simplify wellness and avoid obsession?

65.149 - 72.74 Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel

The first thing is social life is critically important. One of the reasons we have a loneliness epidemic is because we're not interacting.

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Chapter 5: What dietary choices promote longevity without restriction?

72.84 - 93.278 Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel

Social media is not helping, and we have a lot of forces pushing us to be isolated. The number one thing for a long and Happy life is social relations and robust social relations. And the last thing is you got to stay mentally engaged. You got to be mentally on it. Be curious about the world. You got to have purpose.

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If you have meaning and purpose, you live an average of seven years longer.

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207.435 - 214.684 Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel

That's my great honor. I don't know how long we've known each other, Mark, on and off for pushing 40 years.

Chapter 6: How does movement contribute to long-term health?

261.882 - 281.94 Dr. Mark Hyman

And your next book is all about this. But today we're gonna talk about your book, which I love the title of, Eat Your Ice Cream, Six Simple Rules for a Long and Healthy Life. Because if someone were to say to me, Mark, if you were only need one food for the rest of your life, what would it be? It would be ice cream. I love ice cream that much.

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So I'm really happy about your title and the messages in there. And I wanna sort of first ask you, to write this book? Because, you know, you're a health policy guy. This is a nutrition book, not exactly area. You're a medical oncologist.

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Chapter 7: How does purpose and community enhance our lives?

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You know, you're a bioethicist. I mean, you know, it's sort of tangential, but like something inspired you to do this.

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303.18 - 322.18 Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel

Well, I would say that there are three confluent streams. So it is true that primarily in the Obama administration, I worked on health care reform and the Affordable Care Act. But it wasn't the only thing I did. I also worked on global health and trying to improve the health of women and children.

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323.021 - 346.654 Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel

And one of the other things I did is I collaborated with Sam Cass and others to try to do better on our nutrition policy. So one of the things Sam and I did was to open the White House farmer's market about a block and a half from the White House. And we worked together. to get fresh fruits and vegetables right in the center and heart of Washington, D.C.

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And the first lady opened it, and it was very successful. I also worked on revising the food pyramid, which had become, I think, fair to say, incoherent, and substituting the food plate that I think is much clearer advice. We worked and tried to get... food companies to put labels on the front about how much sugar, how much salt and other things. We didn't succeed in that.

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But I was very interested in food policy. And I have I have a long interest in cooking and food. I was a pop up kitchen, a breakfast chef for a few times. So that's one strand sort of.

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And you also and you also raise bees and you make chocolate.

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So Long strand of interest in food policy. The second thing is I was at a meeting, I want to say four years ago, three years ago, something like that. And Arianna Huffington asked me a question, why don't we have more focus on wellness? And I said, well, you know, first of all, wellness is pretty simple. six rule. And second of all, no one's making a ton of money from wellness.

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There's no big corporation like Pfizer going to make a lot of money from wellness. Med schools aren't going to make a lot of money from wellness. Hospitals are going to lose money from wellness. So you don't have the, you know, push on the wellness thing. And honestly,

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The answer that there are six simple things stuck with me, but I wasn't satisfied that we couldn't have a movement in that direction. And it's sort of not at the back of my brain, you might put it. And then, honestly, I read one of the books on wellness that are in the back behind me on my bookshelf, and it made me pissed off beyond belief.

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