Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel

That's right.

But the other thing is,

All those sleep medications, not good for you.

Almost all the societies, professional medical societies related to sleep say, you know, it's cognitive behavior therapy for insomnia that you need.

And so you got to...

Forget the Ambien or Halcyon or whatever you're using.

And I also, you know, I've been perplexed by the popularity of aura rings and how much sleep you're getting, etc.

You know, sleep is one of those things, you know, immediately in the morning, whether you had a good night's sleep or not.

It's like, that's right.

I don't care how many hours I was in bed.

If I feel refreshed when I get up, you know, I'm refreshed when I get up.

And, you know, so I never understand what information they give you that is very useful.

Well, there's a whole series of things.

Like you should not probably take caffeine after a noon or two.

If you're going to nap, you don't nap after two.

Alcohol...

allows you to fall asleep faster, but it gives you disrupted sleep.

Often you wake up after it and it doesn't make it restful.

This is what you report is very common, Mark.

And so I have a bunch of rules in the book of how to maximize your chance that you'll get to sleep.