Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel

And that I think is the key.

And I think it's the key for two reasons.

The first is, you know, if you are forcing yourself all the time, you have to use willpower, right?

You know, I got to do cold plunges and I hate the cold plunges and all that.

you'll burn out because our willpower, you can easily exhaust it.

It's, it's not something that goes on and on and on.

And on the other hand, if it's built into your life and you're kind of doing these things unconsciously, um,

You know, you take joy in them.

They're actually, you know, not only good for your body, good for your mind.

They're, you know, fun and happy making in the process.

And, you know, so for me, it's one of the key elements is, look, why is social relations so important?

Well, they're just they're good in the moment and they're good long term.

And those are the kinds of things you want.

That's the first thing.

The second thing you point out, and again, so, so important.

The people who are talking about wellness today and longevity and pursuing it obsessively, it consumes their life.

It's the total focus.

And that's not, the body is carefully balanced.

And when we sort of go extreme one way, like we're going to, you know, I don't know,

hundreds of pushups or weight rooms for hours a day, that is not good for the body.