Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel

Why is it noisier?

Kids are talking.

Kids are talking.

Yeah.

It's like, oh, this is a good noise.

We want this noise.

But you did that in your college classes.

But I think it's emblematic.

So there are things we can do at the social level that aren't the individual.

And I want to talk about that because I think institutions, organizations, corporations have a role here and they need to take responsibility.

Just like I keep pounding away at my university, let's just have a default that

No phones in the classroom, no computers in the classroom.

And if a professor wants them, they can have them.

But the default is no, because we know it's better for learning.

We know it's better for sociability.

What's the reason to permit it?

And so that's the thing a school could do.

Here's another thing that corporations can do.

A lot of corporations have tried to boost wellness, boost the mental health of their workers, decrease the anxiety.

And it turns out they did a big study in England that's in the book.