Dr. Gabor Maté

I don't want to preach to somebody else about that.

Well, again, you know,

I'm not sure I can fully answer that, but I can give examples.

So the New Yorker a couple years ago, within the last two or three years, had an article about an American black man who was jailed for decades and kept in solitary confinement for decades.

I don't know.

All right, well, my point is that, fair enough, my point is that he wasn't destroyed by it.

Right.

He started to heal in the prison.

He found the inner strength somehow so that

It's not for me to tell.

I don't know if I could stand it for one day and never mind for four decades or three decades.

But that just shows you that the strength, the capacity to heal and to hold on to oneself and to find oneself is actually inherent in all of us.

It's a willingness to find your best qualities and to express them in the world.

That's what I see as greatness.