Dr. Gabrielle Lyon

Exactly.

And they had no idea that the scar was removed.

And they still had the same experience.

Totally, right?

You know, we started the conversation about what makes someone successful, right?

There are people with the same skill set, yet one person will become massively successful and the other person won't.

And what you're saying is, and then again, you have these four drivers that are a component of this.

that those are not fixed, right?

These are adaptability and autonomy.

Capacity, is that what?

We call them trainable attributes, trainable capacities, yes.

How, when you think about these two groups, when you meet someone, can you tell where they are going to fall on this successful scale, do you think?

I love that.

Yeah.

Are there things and very specific things that you see with those that are able to reach their dreams and become successful versus those that aren't?

Like it's irrelevant.

You can think all of these things and it's totally irrelevant.

I was like table tennis.

Gets higher.

As a signal to do something about it or just as noise?