Dr. Gabrielle Lyon

There is internal changes.

Yes, that happen.

Yeah.

And I love that.

And I've read certain research that those individuals that are more confident, believe it or not, there's a hormonal footprint.

They tend to have higher levels of testosterone.

And I just think that this is, it's so fascinating from the hormonal perspective, but also from this biological perspective that

Now, it doesn't mean that sitting up and smiling more is going to necessarily increase your testosterone.

But I think perhaps when your hormones are within a steady range or even, let's say, female or male have higher testosterone, that those individuals, again, this is some of the research that I have been reading, have more confidence.

Fascinating how the inner and the outer interact.

It is.

Completely.

When we were chatting before we started, you had mentioned self-doubt.

I said, okay, amazing, your PhD.

What was it in?

And by the way, PhD is no joke.

It takes... Thank you for acknowledging.

Yes, forever.

And we were talking about the difference between qualitative and quantitative.

Qualitative is, I would say, and please correct me, more subjective.